[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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iKanks 님이 작성:

I'm not sure what to do at this point... should I orb of scouring it and try again with alts or should I get some divines and hope for the best?

What would you hope for with devining it? Bow won't get any good at all... Scouring.

I was hoping to get a better %Phys roll. Can still be rolled up to 179%.

I just strated playing talisman after about 8 month break. What jewels is the ones to run in the skill tree?

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basta1982 님이 작성:

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iKanks 님이 작성:

I'm not sure what to do at this point... should I orb of scouring it and try again with alts or should I get some divines and hope for the best?

What would you hope for with devining it? Bow won't get any good at all... Scouring.

I was hoping to get a better %Phys roll. Can still be rolled up to 179%.

It seems like you don't know how devine-orbs work. All you got is a T8 phys/acc-Mod which can be devined up to 19%phys max, - and that's it. A devine will always only reroll the tiers you already got, but not getting into any higher tiers. For your bow the range is:

phys/acc: iLvl 1: 15 to 19 / 3 to 7 (Squire's)
flat-phys: iLvl 65: 24 to 33 / 49 to 57 (Tempered)
crit: iLvl 30: 20 to 24 (of Piercing)

Plus even a t1 phys/acc goes only to 79% phys max and not 179%, - that's the pure phys t1-mod.

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Honest advice: You are clearly not experienced enough to craft a bow without burning tons of currency. So you should just go back to read/watch guides or probably even better buy a already finished one. If you don't 110% know what you are doing crafting is always a really bad idea.

Thanks for clarifying. I have never used divine orbs before, did not know that they did not change tiers -- That's why I'm asking for advice.

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basta1982 님이 작성:

Honest advice: You are clearly not experienced enough to craft a bow without burning tons of currency. So you should better just go back to read/watch guides or probably even better buy a finished one.

I don't think crafting gear is rocket science, really. What kind of experience do I need to do it?

Hi, thank you for this guide, it's my first bow build and its a lot of fun to play it.

I have one question, i don't understand this

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Hatred+HOL+COH+AM
This is a great combination, if you're not running a utility shot setup and hate manually casting curses. However the damage from HOL is often not enough to cause shocks. In order to shock reliably I highly recommend combining this combination with PTL+WED in your main attack

I tried with Hatred+COH+AM and i never ever get a power charge (my gems are still low level - lvl 15 atm), than i tried HoI+Coh+AM and i sometimes get a power charge but not enough to have them always up.

I have PTL+WED in my main attack.

What do you mean with HOL?? There is only HoI, HoT and HoA.


So how should i link my gems to get power charges?

I have 5k DPS with Haterd+HoA/HoI running. Maybe i need to get some more lvl and quality on my ass. mark gem?

Ty

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iKanks 님이 작성:

Thanks for clarifying. I have never used divine orbs before, did not know that they did not change tiers -- That's why I'm asking for advice.

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basta1982 님이 작성:

Honest advice: You are clearly not experienced enough to craft a bow without burning tons of currency. So you should better just go back to read/watch guides or probably even better buy a finished one.

I don't think crafting gear is rocket science, really. What kind of experience do I need to do it?

It is no rocket science, of course not. But it's not that easy as well. You have to be familar with the concept of prefixes, suffixes, the different tiers, master and meta-crafting to be able to actually know which rolls have potential and which have not. - If you don't you'll most likely just burn a lot of currency. So buying will most likely just be the much cheaper way to go. Of course you can just be really lucky and get merciless plus flaring with a few trys, but well you can win a lottery with a few trys only as well.

In the end it's your decision, - was just an advice. But when you'll come to the point where you have burned more currency than a decent bow would have cost, then don't say i haven't told you. ;)

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basta1982 님이 작성:

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iKanks 님이 작성:

Thanks for clarifying. I have never used divine orbs before, did not know that they did not change tiers -- That's why I'm asking for advice.

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basta1982 님이 작성:

Honest advice: You are clearly not experienced enough to craft a bow without burning tons of currency. So you should better just go back to read/watch guides or probably even better buy a finished one.

I don't think crafting gear is rocket science, really. What kind of experience do I need to do it?

It is no rocket science, of course not. But it's not that easy as well. You have to be familar with the concept of prefixes, suffixes, the different tiers, master and meta-crafting to be able to actually know which rolls have potential and which have not. - If you don't you'll most likely just burn a lot of currency. So buying will most likely just be the much cheaper way to go. Of course you can just be really lucky and get merciless plus flaring with a few trys, but well you can win a lottery with a few trys only as well.

In the end it's your decision, - was just an advice. But when you'll come to the point where you have burned more currency than a decent bow would have cost, then don't say i haven't told you. ;)

I'd like to think I'm pretty familiar with rolling prefixes/suffixes.

But yeah, true. It relies heavily on RNG. I managed to spend ~780 jews to roll 6S on first Lioneye's Glare (at this point I have better gone with Vorici's service, haha) and it only took me 16 jews to roll my second 6S Glare.

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iKanks 님이 작성:

I'd like to think I'm pretty familiar with rolling prefixes/suffixes.

I don't think you are, otherwise you would have realized that your phys-roll is not the one which can be up to 179% at tier 1. Don't get me wrong i really don't want to offend you, just want to help. When i was still unexperienced with crafting i did a lot of things wrong, which wasn't the best for my bankroll.

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basta1982 님이 작성:

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iKanks 님이 작성:

I'd like to think I'm pretty familiar with rolling prefixes/suffixes.

I don't think you are, otherwise you would have realized that your phys-roll is not the one which can be up to 179% at tier 1. Don't get me wrong i really don't want to offend you, just want to help. When i was still unexperienced with crafting i did a lot of things wrong, which wasn't the best for my bankroll.

Looks to me like he understood that stuff but simply never used a Divine Orb. He said he didn't know that Divines don't mess with tiers, so it's clear where the issue comes from.

Anyway, using this guide with LA and Frenzy at the moment in Talisman after I originally wanted to go SA but missed the nerf. Followed Neversinks advice and went LA (I hate TS) and reached level 74. HP seems quite low with 118% at that point but it actually works out at 3.7k. With full charges LA (GMP+Chain) is at 12k DPS, Frenzy at 36k. DPS could be higher by using HoA, but HoL auto curse is just too awesome.

Once I reached the life cluster around bravery I'll search for a Rats Nest and Maligaro's.

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memberx 님이 작성:

Hi, thank you for this guide, it's my first bow build and its a lot of fun to play it.

I have one question, i don't understand this

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Hatred+HOL+COH+AM
This is a great combination, if you're not running a utility shot setup and hate manually casting curses. However the damage from HOL is often not enough to cause shocks. In order to shock reliably I highly recommend combining this combination with PTL+WED in your main attack

I tried with Hatred+COH+AM and i never ever get a power charge (my gems are still low level - lvl 15 atm), than i tried HoI+Coh+AM and i sometimes get a power charge but not enough to have them always up.

I have PTL+WED in my main attack.

What do you mean with HOL?? There is only HoI, HoT and HoA.


So how should i link my gems to get power charges?

I have 5k DPS with Haterd+HoA/HoI running. Maybe i need to get some more lvl and quality on my ass. mark gem?

Ty

COH dont work with hatered man :) HOL _ herald of lightning or use it with herald of ice i think its wil be bether