[3.9] Pure Phys Skeletons & Friends Necromancer — Beginner/SSF/Budget Build

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TheHeadsmasher 님이 작성:

Hi,

Some questions for AG setup:
1. how can I view what he currently have on him?
2. If I give him a new item, does he automatically replace the old one?
3. The advantage of using AG is for culling strike and fortify. Anything else?
4. If he provides additional damage to Skeleton, does this show up on POB? How?

Thank

1. You can't except just looking at the character model
2. It will overwrite the old item thereby deleting the old item
3. Culling Strike, Fortify, 30% item rarity, and 50% to critical strike multiplier all from Kingmaker and 10% movespeed from victario's. Can also get 15% increased damage from Leer Cast but I don't personally use it
4. you would have to manually include the extra crit multi for the skellies. I'm not really sure you could even add it as i don't think Minion Critical Strike Multiplier is even a possible stat

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Solanales 님이 작성:

Continuing with the Animate Guardian discussion, another more expensive setup that I've gone with is as follows:

Weapon - Kingmaker for obvious reasons
Armour - An Elder Chestpiece with Maximum Life, Increased Maximum Life, and 10% of Maximum Life as Extra Maximum Energy Shield crafted on
Gloves - Southbound for the increased maximum life
Helmet - Mask of the Stitched Demon for the "Regenerate 1% of life per 500 maximum Energy Shield (discussed below)
Boots - Victario's for the movespeed buff

The reason this setups works is that your animate guardian will get some INSANE max life and regen. For example in my setup, with that gear, the guardian has 105k life.

With the crafted modifier on the chest to gain 10% of maximum life as extra maximum energy shield, he gets roughly 10.5k energy shield.

With the Mask of the Stitched Demon, he will regen 1% of maximum health per 500 maximum energy shield. With 10.5k maximum energy shield, he'll regen 21% of his maximum health per second. 21% of his max health is 22k, with his built in regen, he'll end up regenning around 25k life per second... He's effectively immortal.

You lose out on the benefits of Leer Cast, but for an effectively immortal guardian I thought the tradeoff was worth it.

This is not my original idea, credit goes to rolandojuantamad from this thread:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2642810/page/96#p22498986

Thanks all for the explanation .

Solanales - do you think it's worth trading off Brutality in Zombies setup, and linking AG to his meatshield / minion life , and using Dying stick , leer cast , belly and vicatorio ? Is it worth in terms of viable dps output ? I know that KingsMaker is like the uber equip , but the does the cheap setup improves the current setup or is not worth bothering ?

Also I know I am repeating myself but do you know from were exactly do our minions get res capped without spirit offering ? Don't get me wrong it just burns my mind to search in 300 pages.

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Vendetta 님이 작성:

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Solanales 님이 작성:

Continuing with the Animate Guardian discussion, another more expensive setup that I've gone with is as follows:

Weapon - Kingmaker for obvious reasons
Armour - An Elder Chestpiece with Maximum Life, Increased Maximum Life, and 10% of Maximum Life as Extra Maximum Energy Shield crafted on
Gloves - Southbound for the increased maximum life
Helmet - Mask of the Stitched Demon for the "Regenerate 1% of life per 500 maximum Energy Shield (discussed below)
Boots - Victario's for the movespeed buff

The reason this setups works is that your animate guardian will get some INSANE max life and regen. For example in my setup, with that gear, the guardian has 105k life.

With the crafted modifier on the chest to gain 10% of maximum life as extra maximum energy shield, he gets roughly 10.5k energy shield.

With the Mask of the Stitched Demon, he will regen 1% of maximum health per 500 maximum energy shield. With 10.5k maximum energy shield, he'll regen 21% of his maximum health per second. 21% of his max health is 22k, with his built in regen, he'll end up regenning around 25k life per second... He's effectively immortal.

You lose out on the benefits of Leer Cast, but for an effectively immortal guardian I thought the tradeoff was worth it.

This is not my original idea, credit goes to rolandojuantamad from this thread:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2642810/page/96#p22498986

Thanks all for the explanation .

Solanales - do you think it's worth trading off Brutality in Zombies setup, and linking AG to his meatshield / minion life , and using Dying stick , leer cast , belly and vicatorio ? Is it worth in terms of viable dps output ? I know that KingsMaker is like the uber equip , but the does the cheap setup improves the current setup or is not worth bothering ?

Also I know I am repeating myself but do you know from were exactly do our minions get res capped without spirit offering ? Don't get me wrong it just burns my mind to search in 300 pages.

Personally, that's where I put AG. I don't see much value to Brutality/multistrike in zombies as they're only there to taunt off of us and absorb damage. Their own damage is menial and sharing a link for Minion Life/Meat Shield with zombies is a good trade off for losing a bit of zombie damage in my opinion.

Dying Breath is... meh. It's okay if you're a curse focus setup but we're not. Kingmaker just gives so much more that I feel like setting up an AG without it is just kind of a "blah" move. I guess my opinion is that you can do as you desire but to make Dying Breath worth it imo you would need an occultist or something that really goes hard on curses.

If you're nervous about the price of Kingmaker, then I'd say consider the setup I had as kind of an "investment" in that you should only need to buy it once. The other setups that have been posted here are effectively immortal as well, but I think Kingmaker is really what makes AG even worth using.

On your Res cap question, nah they sit around 50% I believe if you don't take Indomitable Army and the Elemental Resist node leading up to it. If you took those, you'd get them Res capped... I just don't really see a need for it. The only minion that gets occasionally smacked for me are the Carrion Golems and I just don't really care enough to sacrifice the other benefits just to make sure they're res capped.

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Solanales 님이 작성:

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ad8keyz 님이 작성:

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When you find your helm, use an orb of transmutation on it if it isn't already magic. Then grab that life flask of animation we made in act 2, and sell it, the helmet and an orb of alteration to the vendor. If done correctly, this will give you back the helm with a +1 to minion gems mod on it. Use an orb of augmentation on this, then socket your skeleton gems into it.

Doesn't using the second alteration take away the +1 minion mod?

You don't use an alteration on it, you sell it to the vendor along with the other items then later use an orb of augmentation.

im an idiot. thanks!

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ad8keyz 님이 작성:

im an idiot. thanks!

LOL nah, just misunderstood a direction. It's not a big deal. This game is complex.

Current gear:




I tried to buy an amulet with +1 skeleton for 30c(#Scammaz) To give access to minion speed for my "cold res crafted" ring ....so that my resists would max out. My dex requirement at the moment is pretty high 102 with max desecrate. I do not need max desecrate correct? The requirement for my chest piece is 84, to replace that chest piece which I found jeweler'd and linked myself would cost over 20 exalted is what it's looking like right now. I think the prices for these chest pieces are ridiculous. this one equipped is coming out to about 7 exalted right now? This is a low confidence read from poetrademacro, I'm assuming it's more. So now I'm stuck between those 2 things, because I would like the +1 Skeleton on the amulet but I wouldn't like to lose a lot of the life from the neck piece equipped because It's pretty good lol. I suppose that is the catch to having the extra skeleton though. Makes it just that, much more "tricky". Also I've seen people get these amulets without influence having +1 skeletons on them, is this from the Awakener's Orb? I couldn't find it anywhere else on poeDB. Here's some other gear I was trying out in the past. The gloves I rolled, and now have equipped may make the shield viable again with faster attacks, and having my amount of dexterity. Previously casting Flesh Offering was too slow, as I had the faster attacks and shield charge in place of Flame Dash, Faster Casting. I wanted to keep Raise Spectre. I believe it could be more viable now. Also looking to try Impale for Feeding Frenzy.

Edit: Flask's as well,

Well after playing today around 6 to 7 hours with my 3ex AG setup I have an update:

Setup:

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And on the AG:
+Kingmaker
+Belly of the Beast
+Leer Cast
+Southbound Soldier Gloves
+Victario's Flight

Suffice to say, the AG is probably invincible, I dont think I ever saw his HP move. All I did today was farm t14-16 maps to spawn Conquerors, did Sirus once @ lvl 7, killed 6 Conquerors (all got smoked, also did Sirus but forced downtime faces), I am tankier than ever and so are my minions. The bonus movement speed on all my minions and myself is great.

Damage wise and defense wise this is a very big upgrade, but even though a very cool user already made a custom jewel to attempt to calculate I feel like we would be closer to the truth if PoB properly calculated it. Oh well, we know it's a substantial upgrade though, at least.

Also in other train of thought, I do have Vulnerability supported by CWDT:

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Somones gonna have to correct me here (I'm noob) but would Vuln on Hit gloves on the AG work just like CWDT-Vuln works?

Provided that it works exactly the same and procs roughly the same amount of time, then in theory it's mathematically better since it can be lvl 10 vuln on hit gloves, while CWDT lvl 1 can only support Vuln lvl 5. Theoretically, at least on single target it would be a big upgrade!

That way I can get rid of CWDT, and level Spirit Offering up to level 20 and have it up more often and be even tankier and with that I could afford the socket space and put on Pride on the unique ring to have a very big dps increase!

Just encountered Abaxoth in T16 8-modded Beyond map.
He killed ALL my minions, including my specters and zombies.

It was a fun fight though!

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Solanales 님이 작성:

Continuing with the Animate Guardian discussion, another more expensive setup that I've gone with is as follows:

Weapon - Kingmaker for obvious reasons
Armour - An Elder Chestpiece with Maximum Life, Increased Maximum Life, and 10% of Maximum Life as Extra Maximum Energy Shield crafted on
Gloves - Southbound for the increased maximum life
Helmet - Mask of the Stitched Demon for the "Regenerate 1% of life per 500 maximum Energy Shield (discussed below)
Boots - Victario's for the movespeed buff

You lose out on the benefits of Leer Cast, but for an effectively immortal guardian I thought the tradeoff was worth it.

This is not my original idea, credit goes to rolandojuantamad from this thread:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2642810/page/96#p22498986

This is very interesting. I put like 40c (bought a capped roll on belly on the beast) on leer cast and Belly so I don't think I care too much on losing that. But losing 200c.. probably. I'm gonna look into this. What do we lose exacly? Like 15 Skelly dmg? But we basically make sure our AG will NEVER die

Edit. One thing to note is Grave Intentions. If you have Grave Intentions then that AG already has a 10% shield. So if he has 100k then that's a 10k shield already. That's a 20k life regen already with just a helmet change.

Hi, just starting this game. Currently on Act 5. Chose this build after someone on a Reddit recommended it to me and I must say it’s an amazing build.

I’m starting to die less now, after I got the Carrion Golem and also the skills to get a second.

Great build, can’t wait for the endgame content.

Syn