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Shigesato 님이 작성:
Will this be viable for 3.9 now that spectre has been nerfed? Will anything else significantly change? Really wanting to try this out


The gem level you need to get 2 and 3 spectres was increased which just means people need to invest a little more to have a total of 4 or 5 spectres. This isn't so bad because before 3.8 people played with maximum 3 or 4 spectres.

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I am currently revising the build for 3.9.


More spectre at 13 and 25 , that 12 lv each spectre.So to get next spectre , gem must be at 37 ? :(
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Shigesato 님이 작성:
Will this be viable for 3.9 now that spectre has been nerfed? Will anything else significantly change? Really wanting to try this out


The gem level you need to get 2 and 3 spectres was increased which just means people need to invest a little more to have a total of 4 or 5 spectres. This isn't so bad because before 3.8 people played with maximum 3 or 4 spectres.

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I am currently revising the build for 3.9.


More spectre at 13 and 25 , that 12 lv each spectre.So to get next spectre , gem must be at 37 ? :(


3.8 gem was this:

1 spec: gem level 1-10
2 specs: gem level 11-20
3 specs: gem level 21-30
4 specs: gem level 31

3.9 gem will be:
1 spec: gem level 1-12
2 specs: gem level 13-24
3 specs: gem level 25-30
4 specs: gem level 31
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Build changes from 3.8

Tweaked Passive Tree
Sanctuary notable taken instead of Fearsome Force.
Gain 24% elemental resistance, 7% spell block and 5% attack block.

Dropped and Replaced Gems
Precision and Enhance dropped: unset rings are not needed for 3.9!
Raise Zombie replaced with Animate Guardian.
Increased AOE replaced with Concentrated Effect.

New Gem level Recommendation
Cast when Damage Taken level 15 now recommended.
Immortal Call 15 now recommended.
This means CWDT will proc after taking 25-30% of total health and will proc 33% damage reduction.

Movement Skill Options
Phase Run and CWDT + IC have been put in the Shield. This allows people to replace it with Shield Charge + Fortify + Faster Attacks. If you choose to use Shield Charge, you will need to use Bone Barrier as your guard skill.


Raise Spectre
Raise Spectre gem now requires level 25 to give the 3rd spectre. This means that you must have a level 21 skill gem and +1 minion skill gem on your wand to get 4 (or 5 spectres with delve chest).
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kayella#0845 님이 2019. 12. 11. 오전 3:13:49에 마지막으로 편집
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kayella 님이 작성:
Build changes from 3.8

Tweaked Passive Tree
Sanctuary notable taken instead of Fearsome Force.
Gain 24% elemental resistance, 7% spell block and 5% attack block.

Dropped and Replaced Gems
Precision and Enhance dropped: unset rings are not needed for 3.9!
Raise Zombie replaced with Animate Guardian.
Increased AOE replaced with Concentrated Effect.

New Gem level Recommendation
Cast when Damage Taken level 15 now recommended.
Immortal Call 15 now recommended.
This means CWDT will proc after taking 25-30% of total health and will proc 33% damage reduction.

Movement Skill Options
Phase Run and CWDT + IC have been put in the Shield. This allows people to replace it with Shield Charge + Fortify + Faster Attacks. If you choose to use Shield Charge, you will need to use Bone Barrier as your guard skill.


Raise Spectre
Raise Spectre gem now requires level 25 to give the 3rd spectre. This means that you must have a level 21 skill gem and +1 minion skill gem on your wand to get 4 (or 5 spectres with delve chest).


Thank you for updating so fast. How would you compare the strength of the 3.8 build vs the 3.9 one?
__Shady__#1975 님이 2019. 12. 11. 오전 3:48:04에 마지막으로 편집
can you update the leveling guide please? Are we supposed to use zombies until AG at 28 or not use them at all?

Thanks
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kayella 님이 작성:
Build changes from 3.8

Tweaked Passive Tree
Sanctuary notable taken instead of Fearsome Force.
Gain 24% elemental resistance, 7% spell block and 5% attack block.

Dropped and Replaced Gems
Precision and Enhance dropped: unset rings are not needed for 3.9!
Raise Zombie replaced with Animate Guardian.
Increased AOE replaced with Concentrated Effect.

New Gem level Recommendation
Cast when Damage Taken level 15 now recommended.
Immortal Call 15 now recommended.
This means CWDT will proc after taking 25-30% of total health and will proc 33% damage reduction.

Movement Skill Options
Phase Run and CWDT + IC have been put in the Shield. This allows people to replace it with Shield Charge + Fortify + Faster Attacks. If you choose to use Shield Charge, you will need to use Bone Barrier as your guard skill.


Raise Spectre
Raise Spectre gem now requires level 25 to give the 3rd spectre. This means that you must have a level 21 skill gem and +1 minion skill gem on your wand to get 4 (or 5 spectres with delve chest).


That means here is no way to go 4|5 spectres with Pledge of Hands build?
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Samodin 님이 작성:
Regarding the FF linked to zombies, I was looking at the top spectre necros on PoE.ninja and most of them use FF with spectres, and then Elemental Army + Phys to lightning on zombies. Not sure about the necessity on the PtL, pretty sure Wrath+Generosity alone is enough to make the exposure from EA be lightning.


All minions attack what you attack, so if you do nothing, they also attack nothing. So, linking FF to the spectres will make them attack everything even if you go make a coffee or alt-tab out.

I think some people linked PtL with Zombies so that they would benefit from EE and do some more damage.



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kayella 님이 작성:
Raise Spectre
Raise Spectre gem now requires level 25 to give the 3rd spectre. This means that you must have a level 21 skill gem and +1 minion skill gem on your wand to get 4 (or 5 spectres with delve chest).


That means here is no way to go 4|5 spectres with Pledge of Hands build?


Swap Ele Focus for Empower 4.



21 gem
+1 boots
+2 ascendancy
+3 Emp4

Level 27 RS (level 87 spectres).

Unfortunately, you will lose a damage support gem (Ele Focus 49% more damage) but gain 3 level (+15% more damage: level 84 vs 87).

Spectres gain extra survivability (+18% more life) - I know some people reported losing spectres in UE fight with the PoH build.

Added bonus: It's a lot easier to roll 5b1r compared to 6b on PoH.


So, overall, the PoH build has two changes: Ele Focus -> Empower 4 and Zombies -> AG.
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kayella#0845 님이 2019. 12. 11. 오전 4:25:21에 마지막으로 편집
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r00ting 님이 작성:
can you update the leveling guide please? Are we supposed to use zombies until AG at 28 or not use them at all?

Thanks


Yes, I'll be going through it after updating the PoH build.

I don't think much will change.

Zombies should still be very strong for levelling. But, because my build doesn't focus on zombies, they will be too weak for endgame bossing.

Also, AG shouldn't be used until it's level 19 because at lower levels it can die and all the gear you give it will die as well.
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kayella 님이 작성:

So, overall, the PoH build has two changes: Ele Focus -> Empower 4 and Zombies -> AG.


Thank you! Well in Blight i got a lot of problems with spectres survivability on boss fights like uber(sometimes) or guards, what do u think POH build will be able to OK farm new bosses? The question is stupid a bit cause we totally dont know about new boss mechanics etc, but maybe u got some ideas? Ur choice Rare 1h or POH at the end?

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