[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

eww, this much life and 6pdmdg/2ias nodes twice is just too much for me, wouldn't this be better:


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edit: or better even more:


I betrayed myself and didn't unrespec any hp node too.



I have a question actually- from what I see in people's trees, no one really give a damn about acccuracy too much. Is acc from dex alone considered to be enough? Or is it, like resis, something to be fixed on gear?
I took quite a lot of them, and not for sec I felt like it is overkill (hit ch. at 93% now). I don't wanna have something around, say, 85% ever again.

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sockgr 님이 작성:

Hi guys... Do you like my setup?

i use it once a while to gain frenzy/power charges and add a curse on the enemy

as main atk skill i use this

strong as single and multi target...
what u think?

I dont like to place curse manually..

As for single-target, your 5G1B is the best setup is my opinion and i use it myself. And it's also a versatile one. Ensure you get not just Increased Critical Damage, but also Increased Critical Strikes, Physical to lightning and Item Rarity. They all are useful and shine in certain situations. I actually find Increased Critical Strike superior to Increased Critical Damage, despite it provides a bit less DPS.
You may also want to get Lightning Arrow (and, probably, Mana leech) if you want to run even maps with physical reflect (like i do - no single map mod can stop me).

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skuadak 님이 작성:

eww, this much life and 6pdmdg/2ias nodes twice is just too much for me, wouldn't this be better:

스포일러

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgIAm40ILu2DGY4AXtN-fXXvev665woKm_zFDY3-yFuvh3bh204qIXaQCuOfoaRM_4bOSn0F-UMxwTObJo1-2sHo1jIBt7YuU3TtBbXndLIZdcvTbwUtjb9tbM966mK-p3rvUUfUI7VIVYU2PWHrZU2VBedUMHw31D7PMHEGI_PqpcudqnpTvTbZxgiJJP2NfX8r7T-95t2oH0EqC2KsbIxHfjKUmvH_3iP2OdRLeAMecFJ_Al1oTZJ29zpCFr-m4MqpMfomlaCfYeJVS4w2idPuDlb6b_Jw1a_r

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edit: or better even more:

스포일러

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgIAm40ILu2DGY4AXtN-fXXvev665woKm_zFDY3-yFuvh3bh204qIXaQCuOfoaRM_4bOSn0F-UMxwTObJo1-2sHo1jIBt7YuU3TtBbXndLIZdcvTbwUtjb9tbM966mK-p3rvUUfUI7VIVYU2PWHrZU2VBedUMHw31D7PMHEGI_PqpcudqnpTvTbZxgiJJP2NfX8r7T-95t2oH0EqC2KsbIxHfjKUmvH_3iP2OdRLeAMecFJ_Al1oTZJ29zpCFr-m4MqpMfomlaCfYeJVS4w27g5W-q_r7LCMC7l8

I betrayed myself and didn't unrespec any hp node too.



I have a question actually- from what I see in people's trees, no one really give a damn about acccuracy too much. Is acc from dex alone considered to be enough? Or is it, like resis, something to be fixed on gear?
I took quite a lot of them, and not for sec I felt like it is overkill (hit ch. at 93% now). I don't wanna have something around, say, 85% ever again.

No Savagery? No Master of the Arena (despite having too low STR)?
Why do you skip those AWESOME nodes?
Fatal error is there!
Ok, your tree has just 108 nodes, so let's take those, and we'll have 111-node tree.

And let's compare that tree to mine.

Your tree has 165% increased maximum life (+12% from sockets, to total 177%), +22 maximum life (+40 from str, to total +62), 3.6% life regen, +80 str, +50 int.
My tree has 206% increased maximum life, +137 maximum life, 6.2% life regen, +170 str, +50 int.

It's MUCH tankier and can survive where others will fall. As for slight damage loss - you know, i still kill mobs very fast. You can get more than enough DPS with items enyway,but you cant do that with life and regen.
Also, as my tree will level up, it will pick 5% life node each level, and yours is actually forced to get mediocre DPS nodes instead.

The only DPS nodes i can accept, are those +20% critical strike chance. Critical Strike chance is VERY good, and stacking it up to 90%+ crit chance provides amazing output. If you want to play agressive, then STACK CRITICAL STRIKE CHANCE!

Why we dont give a damn about accuracy clusters? Just because they arent worth it!
Accuracy is great to have, but just a bit. After a ceratin point, increasing your accuracy is just a waste. You get + 100% accuracy from tree and Ice Golem, this is MORE than enough. That's why all further investment into accuracy nodes will be just a waste.
And DO note - accuracy nodes just increase you base accuracy, granted by your dex and gear rolls. I usually advice to have 500-800 accuracy from gear (2 good rolls), more is overkill.

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MortalKombat3 님이 작성:

I dont like to place curse manually..

As for single-target, your 5G1B is the best setup is my opinion and i use it myself. And it's also a versatile one. Ensure you get not just Increased Critical Damage, but also Increased Critical Strikes, Physical to lightning and Item Rarity. They all are useful and shine in certain situations. I actually find Increased Critical Strike superior to Increased Critical Damage, despite it provides a bit less DPS.
You may also want to get Lightning Arrow (and, probably, Mana leech) if you want to run even maps with physical reflect (like i do - no single map mod can stop me).

the 1st setup is not just a manualy curse. it adds power charges and frenzy charges. thats means that increases my dps furthermore. plus we curse the mob that means extra dmg (or defence whatever).

i like your physical reflect setup i forgot that i can use mana leech gem :P
what u think is better cold aroow or lighting arrow?
thx bro

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sockgr 님이 작성:

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MortalKombat3 님이 작성:

I dont like to place curse manually..

As for single-target, your 5G1B is the best setup is my opinion and i use it myself. And it's also a versatile one. Ensure you get not just Increased Critical Damage, but also Increased Critical Strikes, Physical to lightning and Item Rarity. They all are useful and shine in certain situations. I actually find Increased Critical Strike superior to Increased Critical Damage, despite it provides a bit less DPS.
You may also want to get Lightning Arrow (and, probably, Mana leech) if you want to run even maps with physical reflect (like i do - no single map mod can stop me).

the 1st setup is not just a manualy curse. it adds power charges and frenzy charges. thats means that increases my dps furthermore. plus we curse the mob that means extra dmg (or defence whatever).

i like your physical reflect setup i forgot that i can use mana leech gem :P
what u think is better cold aroow or lighting arrow?
thx bro

Lightning arrow is better because:
1. Deals lightning damage (with PtL gem shocks anything except bosses on crit).
2. Shotguns well even withot Chain support (i dont advice to use that).
3. Provides 100% conversion with PtL gem.

Ice shot deals more base damage, but is far less reliable, and i dont life unreliable skills.

You can also use several "+2 mana gained on hit" gems to sustain LA instead. 2 already provide decent sustain on packs, 3 are even better. I also advice to use 1 such a gem all the time, helps a lot to keep mana at bay.

For frenzy charges, i use Blood Range and Blood dance boots.
For power charges, i use Herald of Ice + Curse on Hit + Assassin's Mark combo (+frenzy there, for bosses).
Easy and effective.

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MortalKombat3 님이 작성:

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I just were playing with Panin's fix to your tree, if I were to do it for myself I'd do it totaly different way (actually I did, it's in my profile). Seriously, you can fix stat issues by jewels or +30 nodes. Going 100 miles west picking all these +10 doesm't make any sense. Neither do heading straight for the hp circle while you left so many juicy eva/hp nodes near you.

As for Acc, matter of prefferences I pressume. I have crit almost capped too btw.

How do you guys deal with high amount of physical dmg? I am talking specifically about the thing that happened to me earlier today - I was trying out the Terrace map (Sallazzang boss) and I watched the boss fight earlier so I didn't want to do the boss but then I hit another lvl just right before it so I just said to myself "meh, let's try it".

The result was that I dodged or evaded the first two or three salves that he shot at me (the suppressing fire ones I think) but then I got melted down by just one same attack (rng was not in my favour). It was a straight 4,6K HP meltdown. How am I supposed to deal with it? Would granite flasks help? I don't think it would be that helpful because of the Acrobatics penalty. Or am I supposed to just skip the high dmg burst bosses and never do them?

This build is excellent for clearing paths, but is just too squishy for HC. I never liked evasion builds and boy does this reaffirm it. Big physical hits way too hard. Sad to say this will be my only time using evasion. Currently lvl 74 in Tempest.

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peppko2306 님이 작성:

How do you guys deal with high amount of physical dmg? I am talking specifically about the thing that happened to me earlier today - I was trying out the Terrace map (Sallazzang boss) and I watched the boss fight earlier so I didn't want to do the boss but then I hit another lvl just right before it so I just said to myself "meh, let's try it".

The result was that I dodged or evaded the first two or three salves that he shot at me (the suppressing fire ones I think) but then I got melted down by just one same attack (rng was not in my favour). It was a straight 4,6K HP meltdown. How am I supposed to deal with it? Would granite flasks help? I don't think it would be that helpful because of the Acrobatics penalty. Or am I supposed to just skip the high dmg burst bosses and never do them?

I started with Arctic armor. It's good direction but not even nearly enough. I'm getting LC as next step. Taste of hate is also viable option, but I'm poor (or rather I will be after vorici-linking my bow)

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peppko2306 님이 작성:

How do you guys deal with high amount of physical dmg? I am talking specifically about the thing that happened to me earlier today - I was trying out the Terrace map (Sallazzang boss) and I watched the boss fight earlier so I didn't want to do the boss but then I hit another lvl just right before it so I just said to myself "meh, let's try it".

The result was that I dodged or evaded the first two or three salves that he shot at me (the suppressing fire ones I think) but then I got melted down by just one same attack (rng was not in my favour). It was a straight 4,6K HP meltdown. How am I supposed to deal with it? Would granite flasks help? I don't think it would be that helpful because of the Acrobatics penalty. Or am I supposed to just skip the high dmg burst bosses and never do them?

I think he has 2 different attacks, the white shot is physical, but then he has a green attack which I guess is chaos damage, it melted me too.

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peppko2306 님이 작성:

How do you guys deal with high amount of physical dmg? I am talking specifically about the thing that happened to me earlier today - I was trying out the Terrace map (Sallazzang boss) and I watched the boss fight earlier so I didn't want to do the boss but then I hit another lvl just right before it so I just said to myself "meh, let's try it".

The result was that I dodged or evaded the first two or three salves that he shot at me (the suppressing fire ones I think) but then I got melted down by just one same attack (rng was not in my favour). It was a straight 4,6K HP meltdown. How am I supposed to deal with it? Would granite flasks help? I don't think it would be that helpful because of the Acrobatics penalty. Or am I supposed to just skip the high dmg burst bosses and never do them?

It's all physical and is a barrage of tiny attacks. If you have armor it's really easy. Not mentioned in that guide, but if you have CWDT+IC it's also easy. The 1st few hits trigger IC and tank the rest of it for you. It's short enough that you don't need any charges to buff the duration; you might need an increased duration gem though (not sure, never tried without).


PS if you're having trouble with a boss; there're generally how to guides on Youtube. You can search there directly, or start in the wiki which generally has links to them.