[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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Panini_aux_olives 님이 작성:
On puncture, use both ppad and slower proj as they both massively increase base hit damage, which is what we want to increase the bleed damage (which is also increased by slower proj btw). The other good supports are increased critical strike in and critical damage.
So best 5L is Puncture, PPAD, Slower Proj, ICS or PCoC, ICD. It is the setup that will give the highest physical damage, and thus the highest bleed.

phys to lightning: very very bad idea as it halves the physical damage (and thus bleed damage)
pcoc : why not.
wed: added fire will do better. WED is a better choice than added fire only for skill that convert 50% or more physical damage to elemental (lightning arrow, ice shot, burning arrow, use of P2L support on other skills).


@flyaway_kong: q20 pierce now gives 10% increase projectile damage instead of additional pierce chance as before 2.0. So it's always a welcomed bonus. It's equivalent to a minor damage node.


u said add fire damage is better than wed right? so what about faster attack? does attack speed matter?

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i was wondering where is my tornado shot answer then i just realise that i forgot to ask yesterday LOL

as i said earlier im runing pierce lioneye, my tornado shotup setup is

TS>PPAD>GMP>FA>PIERCE>PTL(or crit damage,or maybe even remove faster attack to put crit damage and ptl), is this setup good? what is the best setup in your opinion?
(there are like ptl,add fire dmg,crit dmg,wed,faster attack to choose from)

p/s i just maade my mind, i think my setup will be ts>gmp>pierce>ppad>crit dmg> ptl,your thoughts?

I will appreciate your help with this situation :)
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Incessant#0517 님이 2015. 12. 2. 오후 6:24:57에 마지막으로 편집
i think best combination for Tornado Shot is GMP>PPAD>FA>Pierce>Crit Dmg, if you have Drillneck
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vici12 님이 작성:
i think best combination for Tornado Shot is GMP>PPAD>FA>Pierce>Crit Dmg, if you have Drillneck


If i skip faster attack for ptl? Ur thoughts?

Same with puncture, if i change faster attack to add fire damage will it be better?
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AFD not good for Puncture, it needs physical damage.

And i think faster attacks is better than PTL on Tornado Shot, but you can check DPS in-game to see which adds more.
vici12#0844 님이 2015. 12. 3. 오전 9:07:18에 마지막으로 편집
I switch up between these two depending on monster resistances based on map:

TS-PPAD-GMP-PTL-WED for maps with fire resist
SA-PPAD-ICS-AFD-Chain for all other maps.

Works fine for me.

As for puncture, contrary to what panini said, I think this would be a better setup:

Puncture-SP-FP-PPAD-ICD, basically replacing ICS with FP for more projectile damage. I may be wrong though.
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thankyou !
I speak english mandarin japanese malay hokkien and cantonese :D

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Ma time zone : GMT+8
I afk alot when i have alot of items to sell // if not mostly ill be offline (IF I HAVE NO ITEM FOR SELL sobs* :'< )
Faster proj provides only little increased damage. ICS is much more important, giving you more reliable crits.

As for faster attack, my feeling is I don't need much on a bow build, I prefer to hit hard and run. Also it increases mana cost quite sensibly if you want to sustain your shots. I use FA as my 6th link with SA/TS on my archer, and don't even use it with lightning arrow. On the other hand I value FA highly on my non crit builds ; it's on my 4L heavy strike and 5L sweep on my Darksrhine marauder.
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I'm not so FasterAttacks4Life!!1! anymore but it's handy sometimes, I can't realy explain it, but it has something to do with CC, particulary with how long mobs stay stunned. At some point I wanted FA in my SA setup, then I took it away when I've got enough attack speed elsewhere.

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I haven't put my setup out in a while, nice one, no? ;p
I spot that it says more by how high is single hit's damage than toolpit in general. Toolpit is a liar basicaly
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skuadak#1891 님이 2015. 12. 3. 오후 2:43:48에 마지막으로 편집
Hi NeverSink. I'd like to know more about the WindRipper (ele crit) build u have. Can't seem to find a link to the build yet. Could you drop me a link to it? I have a legacy WR 100% crit chance and an Acuity along with a good rare quiver so I'm itching to try it out.

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IMPORTANT: This part of the guide is a separate build, it's NOT a part of the original build.
Just to get a few things out of the way:

1) This build expands upon the original build, it's designed for experienced players and requires some currency to pull off properly.
2) Do NOT attempt to play this setup without a windripper
3) Do NOT attempt to start a new character/league with the windripper setup
4) I highly suggest to be familiar with the "normal" build, before trying out the windripper setup.
5) This build is not recommended for beginners

Pro's and con's:

+Insane clearspeed (equal or higher compared to setups of the original build, likely lower than mirror-gear phys bows)
+Consistent elemental effects
+Great for farming
+High mobility
+Fun to play
+CoC variation possible
+Uses a great weapon with massive attack speed/crit chance
+Less affected by upcoming Enduring Cry/CWDT nerf
+Reflect reduces reflected damage by 75%
+Gains a lot more bonus damage from drillneck

-Not exactly cheap
-Reflect is a tricky beast
-You can po
-Leech is a problem
-Immortal call won't help VS reflect
-Not good for atziri


Requirements:

+A Level 85 or higher ranger
+Windripper
+At least 5 links, better 6.

WORK IN PROGRESS


It was last edited in Feb 24 so I am assuming it's already done. Please halp anyone :D
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PalmanFenrir 님이 작성:
Hi NeverSink. I'd like to know more about the WindRipper (ele crit) build u have. Can't seem to find a link to the build yet. Could you drop me a link to it? I have a legacy WR 100% crit chance and an Acuity along with a good rare quiver so I'm itching to try it out.


It was last edited in Feb 24 so I am assuming it's already done. Please halp anyone :D


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