[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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baalus 님이 작성:

Hey guys,
my setup is no reach of the council and a drillneck, so I decides to to the drillneck skilltree with all the Piercing Shot nodes.
As Ascendency I have
- Far Shot
- Fast and Deadly
- Ricochet
My Gem Setup is TS-FA-PPAD-GMP-Pierce-Poison.
I think I don't do do enough damage as described here. I switched away from PTL-WED because I see tons of mobs with resist elemental damage, where I don't do enough damage.
At the moment I can run (or should I say walk) tier 8 Atoll Map or Tropical Island but if I want to go higher I die faster than I can deal damage.
1) Is it better to change Ricochet to Endless Munition ?
2) Is it better to change the nodes from "Piercing Shots" to "Revenge of the Hunted" (I miss them at the moment)
3) If you see general proglem in my gear, please tell mem (my Profil is public(tornadoBaal)), my currency is about 50c, so cannot do alot.
Please help me !
baalus

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baalus 님이 작성:

Hey juerk,

thanks a lot for this "wall of text". The first thing with the Essence Sap and the 5% life was done, works great.

What do you mean with "I agree with you on the "revenged of the hunted"-cluster", it was a question of mine witch node I should take ?

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baalus 님이 작성:

I meant that I quite like all those %evasion + %life nodes and prefer them to the life/flask nodes or the travel to the scion wheel (if possible).

The next is Rat's nest but the 78% fire resi on helm an belt, were a little bit disturbing to change the helm without losing capped resis.

What do you to the choice of the ascendencies ?


baalus

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juerk 님이 작성:

Are you asking, what ascendacys I like for TS or what I would suggest to you in your current situation?

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baalus 님이 작성:

1) Is it better to change Ricochet to Endless Munition ?

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Max_ak 님이 작성:

As I reasoned last post TS + Ricochet + Pierce is not great idea.

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Raizdoe 님이 작성:

Hey Tornado friends :)

I'm slowly grinding my way to maps... Right now my best map is level 6. My main problem is surviving...
I think my damages are OK, but I sometimes get 1/2 shot... I'm not at home right now but my life is something like 3K6 I think and i have no energy shield.

What is the "defense" idea behind this build ?

Also can you guys see my stuff : https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Raizdoe/characters ?

I'm using this bow that has "cannot leech" is that a big problem ? Right now I kill pack of mobs very fast and that refills my potions pretty quickly... All I do is spam Assassin's mark & my potions, it's a little bit boring...
Judging by the flask settup of OP, i'm doing a huge mistake by having no leech as this seems to be the only way to regen mana ??

Reading first post : "The ring Thief's Torment. While it provides another disadvantage, the Life and mana on hit is INSANE, the resistance bonuses very high and the quantity very welcome. I do not recommend running infractem without the ring in maps!"

ok ok it seems like i'm doing a mistake...

Any idea of what I should change/upgrade/doing ?

Thx !

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juerk 님이 작성:

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Raizdoe 님이 작성:

Hey Tornado friends :)

I'm slowly grinding my way to maps... Right now my best map is level 6. My main problem is surviving...
I think my damages are OK, but I sometimes get 1/2 shot... I'm not at home right now but my life is something like 3K6 I think and i have no energy shield.

What is the "defense" idea behind this build ?

Also can you guys see my stuff : https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Raizdoe/characters ?

I'm using this bow that has "cannot leech" is that a big problem ? Right now I kill pack of mobs very fast and that refills my potions pretty quickly... All I do is spam Assassin's mark & my potions, it's a little bit boring...
Judging by the flask settup of OP, i'm doing a huge mistake by having no leech as this seems to be the only way to regen mana ??

Reading first post : "The ring Thief's Torment. While it provides another disadvantage, the Life and mana on hit is INSANE, the resistance bonuses very high and the quantity very welcome. I do not recommend running infractem without the ring in maps!"

ok ok it seems like i'm doing a mistake...

Any idea of what I should change/upgrade/doing ?

Thx !

your profile is set to private, so we can't really see your equip/skilltree/links ;)

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juerk 님이 작성:

Ah, ok, you are using a 6l Infractem. I like the bow for leveling and you can do yellow maps with it, but something like a Reach or 330+ pdps Bow with crit is soo much better. I have no idea how to price a 6l Infractem but it's probably somewhat cheaper compared to a non-linked Reach, so you might have to play with the setup as it is for a while.

Reasons are pretty much:

1) you get comparable dps with a decent 5l bow but can get a) leech b) a lot of life+res+dmg on your rings

2) an eva 6l is very cheap (under 1ex with a decent base) in a sc temp league, don't know much about standard prices.

until you can afford the switch..there isn't a way around Thief's Torment or some form of life-gain-on-hit. I tried it once without and it was pretty much unplayable, even at dried lake. Your Infractem has a bad implicit roll, so some orb of blessings would help there (you can stop at 45%+ or so).

in your setup: slower proj or ele focus give you better dmg compared to FA. Also you might consider running some form of ele weakness on hit (curse on hit or gloves corruption) with this setup (80%+ or so of your dmg is elemental) and attaching the power charge generation elsewhere.
A different way of handling this would be switching to pure phys with something like (TS-GMP-PPAD-SP-FA-Inc crit multi / whatever)

Gear: jewellery looks OK [unfortanetly you have to get thief's torment], quiver is OK as well (I'd probably still prefer drillneck/signal fire), boots, belt + gloves + boots are really bad. The chestpiece is covering your resists but has bad Evasion, so you can upgrade it later (after you are done with the pieces listed above).

As a rule of thumb [without Kaom's] you are looking for 25% MS on your boots and T1-T2 life on every single rare you're wearing on this build. If you manage to get some insane item with a bit lower life, you can ofc make an exception, but in general you're just way too squishy with low life rolls (or without any life rolls).

As an example: I had T1 on every single rare on my life based assassin this temp-league and can't say i had a great amount of life.

Tree looks sort of ok, I'd connect the shadow points on the left side (for the time being) and get the jewel socket though. The quickstep nodes you can regret to get the jewel socket in the duelist area imo.

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After you make some switches and farm a currency for a decent bow, you'll be having much more fun with this build compared to now.