[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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is opus bow not end game material for this build??

Also, good Harbringer with high phys, but without crit, costs under 1ex, which is in range of budget for every player and can carry you into t8-t10 maps (or even higher, idk yet, but im using something like that).

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Whos can do leveling tree?>

You can do it, since you are experienced as i can see on your profile ;>

But more srsly - i rushed for tree around Spirit/Vitality Void for sustain etc. Was working rather good, but i cant say it was easy early game for me. Right now build is getting better and better.

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SICKzNASTY 님이 작성:

is opus bow not end game material for this build??

Nice bow for leveling, but not for endgame grinding.

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DGTLDaemon 님이 작성:

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SICKzNASTY 님이 작성:

is opus bow not end game material for this build??

Death's opus severely lacks DPS compared to a good Harbinger. Looking at the prices on poe.trade, I'm not even sure why Opus costs that much. Looks like a mediocre bow to me.

It is quite decent, and gets valued quite highly in other bow threads. And the bow is certaintly endgame-viable. Last league Mathil made a guide for TS-only death opus character and killed all Guardians / Shaper with it. The downside of the bow is, that you have to build around it - and those items tend to be more expensive than the bow itself (some GG steel rings). You can't just equip random gems and gear and hope for maximum efficiency on it.

Obv. all the standart people will laugh about that bow, because its really bad compared to a mirrored bow or legacy reach.

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Aziello 님이 작성:

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is opus bow not end game material for this build??

Also, good Harbringer with high phys, but without crit, costs under 1ex, which is in range of budget for every player and can carry you into t8-t10 maps (or even higher, idk yet, but im using something like that).

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Whos can do leveling tree?>

You can do it, since you are experienced as i can see on your profile ;>

But more srsly - i rushed for tree around Spirit/Vitality Void for sustain etc. Was working rather good, but i cant say it was easy early game for me. Right now build is getting better and better.

Well - you won't find that many good Harbingers below 1ex ;) - those seem rather overpriced this league, tbh.
As for death's opus:
I put in some semi-budget gear (around 5ex without Bow+Flasks, 1x Valyrium, 1x steel ring, +1 Barrage proj on helmet, no dying sun) into PathofBuilding and used some tree very similar to the signalshot-tree. With this configuration death's opus (197 pdps) was stronger for both Pathfinder and Assassin [for barrage] - compared to a 340 pdps 8.78 crit Harbinger, which I used as a benchmark. For Tornado shot both bows were on the same level.

Since life based characters can use two steel rings, the relative strength of death opus should be pretty obvious unless you get ALL of (dying sun, +1 quiver, +2 barrage helmet) - and even in that case death's opus is not that much worse.

P.S. Imo the best "budget" bow is Chin Sol - it's extremely strong for single target and costs around 1 alc..

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juerk 님이 작성:

Well - you won't find that many good Harbingers below 1ex ;) - those seem rather overpriced this league, tbh.

It's pretty easy to get a 300+ DPS Harbinger for cheaper than Death's Opus (which currently costs around 25c). I've seen those go for as low as 3-5c. I got my Harbinger with 370 DPS for 40c, and that's pretty much an endgame bow, unless you can afford one of those 450+ DPS bows sold for around 1 mirror :)

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_Saranghaeyo_ 님이 작성:

There's a difference between DPS and pDPS.

Your bow is 297 pDPS and capable of 334 pDPS with Multimod

Yeah, I know. When I was shopping for a Harbinger, I was targeting 300+ DPS and 200+ pDPS. Asking for 300+ pDPS is a bit too much, such bows do exist, but are very expensive.

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Asking for 300+ pDPS is a bit too much, such bows do exist, but are very expensive.

Huh? Are they? Idk, i bought mine for less than an ex. But if we are talking about 300+ pshys dps + crit chance... Yeah. Prices are skyrocketing.

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Aziello 님이 작성:

Huh? Are they? Idk, i bought mine for less than an ex. But if we are talking about 300+ pshys dps + crit chance... Yeah. Prices are skyrocketing.

Yeah, I'm talking about Harbingers specifically. They are more expensive than other bows because of the crit chance.

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DGTLDaemon 님이 작성:

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juerk 님이 작성:

Well - you won't find that many good Harbingers below 1ex ;) - those seem rather overpriced this league, tbh.

It's pretty easy to get a 300+ DPS Harbinger for cheaper than Death's Opus (which currently costs around 25c). I've seen those go for as low as 3-5c. I got my Harbinger with 370 DPS for 40c, and that's pretty much an endgame bow, unless you can afford one of those 450+ DPS bows sold for around 1 mirror :)

Well - last league bows and bow chars were sort of out of fashion, so i could buy this bow for 2.5 Ex - 5linked, as far as I remember. The currency exchange rates were 1Ex: 50-60c back then.



This league, with ROTC nerfed to the ground and bows a bit more popular again, things are looking a bit different.

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DGTLDaemon 님이 작성:

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Aziello 님이 작성:

Huh? Are they? Idk, i bought mine for less than an ex. But if we are talking about 300+ pshys dps + crit chance... Yeah. Prices are skyrocketing.

Yeah, I'm talking about Harbingers specifically. They are more expensive than other bows because of the crit chance.

Well - if you don't want to pay 20-30% more for the "Harbinger" tag, you can try to sneak a different bow with a really high crit explicit, or a well rolled Decimation Bow with similar stats to a mediocre rolled harbinger.