[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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AntSunrise 님이 작성:

Couple questions. Why do you have 2 Fast Support gems? You can stack if on diff piece?

If the question was addressed at me, those two gems support different skills - Tornado Shot and Siege Ballista.

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And why does OP skill tree have claw points?

Because of Lioneye's Fall jewel ;)

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Nope, I kept getting hit by a) spears thrown by one of the clones, and b) delayed flame blasts. Each of those attacks one-shots me. Probably just lack of skill/bad positioning on my part. No big loss, though. I'm happy that I did the uber lab, because it offered meaningful rewards. Atziri is really just an optional side boss. Probably will give her another try some time in the future.

Avoiding flameblast and spears is all about movement speed and mirror arrow usage

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Needing major help on mine. Yes, I am new to game but right now my res are literally -50 in merci and need more improvements. If you can look at my profile /gear and let me know about some help.

Thanks

Yeah, less uniques since they usualy give no resistances.Look for two stone rings with as much resistances as possible with decent life roll. Look for boots,gloves and belt with the same stats-life and resistances-the more the better
Infractem is decent bow but at lest link 4 sockets in it or in chest.
Your main problems are-huge lack of resistances and no minimum linked sockets that is 4.

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I have followed this build pretty closely and it is working pretty well but I suspect my gear is not synergized well (for example I convert 100% to elemental, but I run retch so I don't think I get the leech benefit from it). Does anyone have any suggestions on what to target for improvement? I have a few exalt to spend.

I would take vaal haste, vaal summon skeleton and vaal grace+ increased dudration in helmet to activate these on boss along with Atzirti promise.
Other gear and sockets are pretty good. Where exactly you experience troubles? What map tier you stuck on?

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Couple questions. Why do you have 2 Fast Support gems? You can stack if on diff piece?
And why does OP skill tree have claw points?

He has faster projectile and faster attacks- these 2 different supports and perfectly stacks together

Hello, NeverSink

Thank you very much for your guide, I, as a new player, found it very useful. I have a question about Infractem bow set up. Got also Thiff's Torment and Drillneck for it. The question is, how should I chanche my skill tree with this set up? I guess no Vaal Pack. I also have claw life and mana leech taken with a Lion's Fall jewel, should I remove them all, or only life leech part? What ather talents should I go for instead? Just my phys/bow/proj damage and crit or mb something specual? Using hp based tree you linked btw.
Also, how far can this bow carry me? You wrote all maps could be done with it, how about uber lab? Mb I shouldn't focus too much on specual skill tree for it, if I'll be forced to swap it for something else later.

Sorry for grammatical mistakes, english isn't my first language
Thanks for your attention

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Needing major help on mine. Yes, I am new to game but right now my res are literally -50 in merci and need more improvements. If you can look at my profile /gear and let me know about some help.

Thanks

Yeah, less uniques since they usualy give no resistances.Look for two stone rings with as much resistances as possible with decent life roll. Look for boots,gloves and belt with the same stats-life and resistances-the more the better
Infractem is decent bow but at lest link 4 sockets in it or in chest.
Your main problems are-huge lack of resistances and no minimum linked sockets that is 4.

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Yeah, I have added 5 sockets to bow on first try luckily and others. working on rings and belt and whichever boots work out. Getting better and better res now. Not sure if I understand the whole claw part of tree though.

A better armor would be great as well but I went for something quick to get me through.

Ok, to guy who was talking about Atziri problem - im not doing her now, idk if i ever will, since her rewards sucks, but still if i would, i would stack spelldodge. Are you using dodge flask + atziris steps? With raider passive it can give you damn high dodge.

New guy - you need Lionyeys Fall for claw to works. I recommending you Spirit Void/Vitality Void first and then respec your tree. Stack dem res and if you need something pm me in few hours at @PrawieJakEllen, ive got some old items of mine, i can give them to you, they will help.

And now, my personal problem - last night i did my first t10, Colonnade, moded etc. Stuff was going nice, i died of greed (dem essences, guys ;<) once, but then hit the wall with boss. Damn, his aoe hit me so hard i had to run. So, i guess survi is still a problem, right? Which kinda links to my problem - Signal Fire or Drillneck. First one gives me more "single target" dmg (i know that ts is aoe anyway, but its not that big with signal), second helps with clearing maps in no time, excluding bosses maybe. So, what do you think, guys? Is switching between Drill and Signal on bosses good idea?

Also, since Cruel im burning all Breach Leaguestones, since i was dying to them. With squshines of that build i feel kinda afraid of them, but rewards looks kinda worth it. So, any general tips how to run Breaches with that build, guys?

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Aziello 님이 작성:

Also, since Cruel im burning all Breach Leaguestones, since i was dying to them. With squshines of that build i feel kinda afraid of them, but rewards looks kinda worth it. So, any general tips how to run Breaches with that build, guys?

You need to find the right balance between two things. On the one hand, you must stay aggressive and kill the mobs as fast as you can, on all sides, to avoid getting overrun. On the other, if you see elemental nukes targeting you, you need to get out of there immediately, 'cause it's a death sentence. What I usually do is as soon as the breach opens, I identify a "clear side" where there are less monsters, move over to that side so that I'm not surrounded, and start shooting the mobs. But yes, breaches are dangerous, I died in them quite a few times. And the only time I tried to beat a breach lord, I failed so miserably that it was humbling.

For 100% ele conversion, is it better to forego power charges with assassin's mark and use elemental weakness?

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Vobomaye 님이 작성:

For 100% ele conversion, is it better to forego power charges with assassin's mark and use elemental weakness?

Imo yes, if you can get your power charges elsewhere, there are plenty of ok-ish options for that (frenzy/OoS-PCoC-inc. strikes, weapon swap with the PcO-trap shield). I will try out the shield soon, after I've farmed a bit for the next bow character.

Even vs bosses you get around 10% penetration from the curse, which is substantial. However, if you are stuck at 0-1 power charge with the options above, it's probably not worth it.

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Aziello 님이 작성:

Ok, to guy who was talking about Atziri problem - im not doing her now, idk if i ever will, since her rewards sucks, but still if i would, i would stack spelldodge. Are you using dodge flask + atziris steps? With raider passive it can give you damn high dodge.

4600hp 66% spell dodge with flask-FB doesn't kill even if spell dodge didn't work, but still, better avoid FB with mirror arrow and movement speed flask. Boots +30, flask with movement speed bonus,20% increased Movement Speed while Phasing(You have Phasing while at maximum Frenzy Charges) should make you Flash of Wraeclast.

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Damn, his aoe hit me so hard i had to run. So, i guess survi is still a problem, right? Which kinda links to my problem - Signal Fire or Drillneck. First one gives me more "single target" dmg (i know that ts is aoe anyway, but its not that big with signal), second helps with clearing maps in no time, excluding bosses maybe. So, what do you think, guys? Is switching between Drill and Signal on bosses good idea?

That's why everyone should take Avatar of the Veil on cruel.
Immune to Elemental Status Ailments while Phasing
And yeah, this boss is rather a DPS check.
Drillneck itself gives slightly better clearspeed. Signal fire is more about pure elemental DPS. I am more into Signal fire since we have nodes in both trees that multiply elemental damage. Try Vaal summon skeletons- they are a good tank for a few seconds of a boss fight when you can just stand and dps boss with vaal haste and flasks while he is dealing with skeletons.

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Also, since Cruel im burning all Breach Leaguestones, since i was dying to them. With squshines of that build i feel kinda afraid of them, but rewards looks kinda worth it. So, any general tips how to run Breaches with that build, guys?

Usually take 3 flasks for Breaches:
Stibnite Flask
Jade Flask
Atziri promise
A lot of evasion, 50% less chance to hit you ,all your native dodge and evasion and finally dps to keep flask charges full. Go clockwise clearing the breach.

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For 100% ele conversion, is it better to forego power charges with assassin's mark and use elemental weakness?

Yeah switch to EW on bosses.

hey just wondering, why is it not better to stack chaos damage instead of elemnetal damage? we are right next to asssassin skill tree area with some sweet phys+ chaos damage?