Enki's Arc Witch Memorial Page & POE 2 Arc Summary
" As realkph said, Agnostic requires a lot of mana sustain to be viable. I would never recommend using it until you're well into mapping and have some of the higher-end core items that provide a larger mana pool and better sustain, like fully functional Desecrate/Bone Offering setup in wand with the trigger craft and 140+ mana, Atziri's Foible, Kitava's Teachings, Watcher's Eye, max level Clarity, Healthy Mind, etc. I also run Cloak of Defiance to help with it, and recover % mana on block (shield) and increased mana recovery (belt) are two other really strong gear affixes for supporting it. So definitely don't run it until you have most of those in place. Once you CAN add it to the build, though, it is an unbelievable survival mechanism. I think a lot of the people who are dismissive of Agnostic are not approaching it with the right mindset. (Again, this only applies if you have built your character to properly support Agnostic!) First, it only takes as much mana as is needed to fill your life pool, up to 20%. So it's not going to be draining 20% of your mana unless you're taking lots of damage very quickly--in which case you'd likely be dead without it, anyway. Another absolutely crucial point here is the size of your mana pool and how it compares to the size of your life pool. Almost all of our mana recovery, sans flasks and the flat regen from Clarity and one part of Essence Glutton, is percentage-based and therefore scales directly with the size of our mana pool. The following is a VERY basic hypothetical that is only meant to illustrate this last point. I'm doing this while at work, so for the love of god check my math. I'm not accounting for, among other things, additional sources of life recovery, but I don't think they'd have a substantial impact on the bottom line. Suppose you can sustain mana regen such that you can go from zero to max mana in 1.5 seconds (very attainable). If you have 6000 mana and 5000 life, you're regenerating 4000 mana per second and, if using the Agnostic, recovering a maximum of 1,200 life per second. That's 24% life recovery per second. If your Arc costs 800 mana/cast and you're casting 3/second, you're eventually going to tap out when Agnostic is working at max capacity, which in this case, with MoM, would mean taking at least 1715 damage/second. That gives a gross mana recovery of -115 mana/second (4000 base regen - 2400 from Arc -1200 from Agnostic - 515 from MoM), or -2%/second, for a net life recovery of +1,200 life/second (gross life recovery being 0% because life total is being sustained at 100%). So in that hypothetical situation, you're losing mana by default. Taking any additional damage will quickly kill your mana because of MoM, regardless of life regen/flasks. Now suppose you're in the same situation, but your life pool is 3500 and your mana pool is 9000 because you just popped a Healthy Mind into your passive tree or whatever. (I guess Arc would cost 1200 mana per cast, then?) With these new totals, you're regenerating 6750 mana/second. For the sake of an apples-to-apples comparison, we'll say you're still taking 1715 damage/second, 1200 to life and 515 to mana from MoM. That gives a gross mana recovery of +1435/second (6750 base regen - 3600 from Arc, - 1200 from Agnostic, -515 from MoM), or +19% mana/second, for a net life recovery of +1,200 life/second (gross life recovery being 0% because life total is being sustained at 100%). It might be a fairer comparison to have Agnostic working at max capacity here, too, which would increase net life recovery to 1,800/second and decrease gross mana recovery to 570/second or so, but it is still sustainable, unlike with a smaller mana pool, and is another 50% more life recovery--and a lot more Archmage damage--to boot! I realize the example is crude and incredibly reductive, but the math is, I'm pretty sure, accurate. And the difference becomes even more pronounced the more mana regen you have--I'd say it takes a second or less to refill my entire mana pool with standard buffs up, which dramatically increases gross mana recovery if applied to this example. The obvious downside of a smaller life pool is more susceptibility to one-shots, which is why I go with Cloak of Defiance, as the extra 10% on MoM is essentially a 1.17 multiplier to your eHP. A smaller life pool is also offset quite effectively by the extra protection from Arcane Cloak (I have bound to left click to minimize downtime.) But true one-shots are not as common as it seems, as I have learned from rocking Agnostic. Tl;dr: I have 9200 unreserved mana and only 3600 life, yet I basically feel immortal with the Agnostic, outside of huge hits that were never meant to be facetanked by us in the first place. WorderMostFoul#7154 님이 2020. 7. 20. 오후 6:35:35에 마지막으로 편집
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I've been using The Agnostic since before I had "good" items and never had a problem with that part of the build.
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How are you guys crafting your weapon? Not sure how I want to continue with my wand. Been spamming a bit to get Wrath + Mana but I think I'm just going to skip mana, what do you guys think?
just one more map
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" I wish I could give good crafting advice, but I'm probably on your level. However, I would NOT skip the mana here under any circumstances. Maybe spam lucent fossils until you get good mana rolls, then lock prefixes and try your luck with harvest crafting? |
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" I'm no crafting expert, but I believe this is correct. Also, if you get an affix that is not helpful, but has a tag, you can continue and use harvest crafting to remove it. For instance, if you get any Attack mods on your wand, use the Harvest "Remove Attack mod". Then use a Harvest "Augment with x mod" to replace it with something that (might) be useful. Things like attributes, don't have a tag, though, so if you get something like Dexterity on there, you are bricked. In this wand's case, you have both a Cold mod and an Attack mod. These can easily be removed with Harvest crafting, and replaced with other Harvest crafting. However, you want to be closer to beinf "done" with the wand before you do that... ie, you want 5-6 total mods on it, with 3-5 highly desirable mods. You can try your luck with an Annulment, but Harvest is better. |
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Just started playing around 2 and half week and been using this guide like many to learn the game. Currently I've gotten up to doing A5 sirus but i feel like my gear is still lacking. One of the issues is at times i tend to get randomly one shot, i don't know if those certain instances that one shot me are intended to one shot or if its my gear/setup. 4.6k hp and 7.3k mana. I'm also trying to up my dps as I'm currently sitting at 1.3mil but feel like its on the lower side of the scale. Haven't really been able to get into crafting as i don't quite understand it yet nor do i know what to go for so I've resulted in buying all my gear. Tried to follow the guide to the best of my ability gearing wise while looking at some posts here but some help with where to go with my gear/jewels next would be greatly appreciated. My budget is around 1-1.5k chaos right now.
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looking for advice to upgrade my gear, i have less than 5ex right now
Location: Singapore GMT+8
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" Personally, I'd look to upgrade your body armor, gloves, and ring, and maybe find another Crown or craft BiS rare helmet with a relevant enchantment (extra Arc chain is best). Loreweave is solid, but a BiS rare is way better, and Cloak of Defiance is insane with Agnostic. Try for gloves with Culling Strike, or at with unnerve and then put CS in OoS setup--I think it is always worth fitting into this build. Actually, I just looked at your skill tree and you're not running Kitava's Teachings or a Watcher's Eye yet. I'd go for those first and then the body armor. |
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" Anybody who can help me with the steps on how to craft this kind of helmet? I've been away from the game too long and I'm not really sure at all about all these league items and how to craft correctly. |
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My only point was that "The Agnostic" should not be in the skill tree at act 10 (without a warning) since this is a guide aimed at beginners too.
When I work towards mapping I dont pay that much attention to my gear as long as it does the job. With that in mind if you just "copy/past" the skill tree you run into issues that could be avoidable. In my early days I offen ran into trouble because I was overwhelmed and didn´t fully understand what the build exactly does. So this was more or less for Enki to consider changing it to a later point or putting up a warning sign for new players ;) But thank you guys anyway for the very detailed explanation, I found it helpful and as I said I will take this skill soon. Just dont feel the pressure jet because I burst my current maplevel anyway. ^^ IGN: Dunkellicht
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