Enki's Arc Witch Memorial Page & POE 2 Arc Summary

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WorderMostFoul 님이 작성:

Because RF deals a % of your life per second as burning damage, this actually depends on how much life you have. The more life you have, the more mana regen you'll need to support the additional mana taken via Agnostic. I think an important threshold is being able to run RF in your hideout and stay at full mana with no buffs up other than your auras. Owing to our ascendancy, Kitava's Thirst, and Arcane Surge, we have a lot more mana recovery than this while in actual combat, but I think of that extra recovery as supporting the additional mana needed for spellcasting and MoM.

My base mana regen without buffs (aside from Clarity) is 1500/second, which is enough to support RF with 3750 life and 9300 unreserved mana. Regen with additional previously mentioned buffs active goes up to about 5000/second. There are enough mathematical factors going into these mechanical interactions that I can't give you a straight-up formula, but it's easy enough to figure out if you can support it by just buying a lvl 1 RF from Lily, turning it on in your hideout, and waiting around for 30 seconds without moving or anything. If your life and mana stay topped off the whole time, I think you're good to try running RF.

Note: do NOT run RF without Agnostic; you will immediately regret it.

Thanks for the explaination. Actually I have 674.3 manareg and I am not able to sustain RF in my hidehout without consuming corpses/buffs (I do have Agnostic up). I truly do not know which is the main source of manareg that I am missing, compared to your setup... do you have a PoB of your character for comparison?

So far so good this league is insane... I started just 1 week ago and already have rly nice gear.
The crafting is nuts + I guess I got rly lucky on buying (helmet 2,5 ex ; boots 1 ex)


This is my current gear:


I wonder what to improve next? My current game plan is to get the 3rd mod on my cluster jewel it has Disorienting display, supercharge the 3rd option could be:
-Doryani's Lesson (I have 2 life mods so a 50:50 if I rerole life)
-I remove a life and add a def to roll for Storm Drinker
-I could go the long road with cold (sadly there are many cold options) and try for Inspired Oppression
-adding another lightning could end up in rolling something bad that I cant change savely like Tempt the Storm

Also weapon and shield could still be better and Im over the top with resis because I want to get a more aggressive ring and or get out of the red with chaos resis. Oh and I guess Ill do cannot be frozen instead of mana on the shoes...

also -def + dmg on belt

Hello Enki. i'm following you for some time now ., why you are not using staff anymore? ., im askin becouse i've found Angerod West with some good stats. should i save it? or keep using claw and shield? big hug. keep it up.

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palajack 님이 작성:

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WorderMostFoul 님이 작성:

Because RF deals a % of your life per second as burning damage, this actually depends on how much life you have. The more life you have, the more mana regen you'll need to support the additional mana taken via Agnostic. I think an important threshold is being able to run RF in your hideout and stay at full mana with no buffs up other than your auras. Owing to our ascendancy, Kitava's Thirst, and Arcane Surge, we have a lot more mana recovery than this while in actual combat, but I think of that extra recovery as supporting the additional mana needed for spellcasting and MoM.

My base mana regen without buffs (aside from Clarity) is 1500/second, which is enough to support RF with 3750 life and 9300 unreserved mana. Regen with additional previously mentioned buffs active goes up to about 5000/second. There are enough mathematical factors going into these mechanical interactions that I can't give you a straight-up formula, but it's easy enough to figure out if you can support it by just buying a lvl 1 RF from Lily, turning it on in your hideout, and waiting around for 30 seconds without moving or anything. If your life and mana stay topped off the whole time, I think you're good to try running RF.

Note: do NOT run RF without Agnostic; you will immediately regret it.

Thanks for the explaination. Actually I have 674.3 manareg and I am not able to sustain RF in my hidehout without consuming corpses/buffs (I do have Agnostic up). I truly do not know which is the main source of manareg that I am missing, compared to your setup... do you have a PoB of your character for comparison?

No problem!

So I'm not sure if the 675/second you're seeing is in-game or in PoB, because PoB will by default account for a lot more in the total it gives you than the in-game tooltip mana regen stat. To get PoB to reflect tooltip, I had to turn off Arcane Surge, unsocket my Watcher's Eye (increased recovery rate is not reflected on in-game tooltip), and check "always on full life" to keep Agnostic from applying a -20% mana/second penalty to the regen stat. I ended up with this: https://pastebin.com/7JGwp9gU

That shows 1,644 mana/sec regen, as opposed to 1,505 tooltip. So there's something else in there that I'm not accounting for.

For reference, this is what my PoB would actually look like for DPS and other stats during active single-target combat (all flasks unchecked cuz you'll never have all flasks up constantly during the Awakener fight and it's disingenuous to pretend otherwise): https://pastebin.com/2NRecDVa

Anyway, I can't see your profile because it's set to private, but if I had to guess, the extra tooltip regen I have over you is likely coming from these two items, if you don't already have them or equivalent regen elsewhere on your gear/tree that I don't:


If you don't have a Watcher's Eye with increased mana recovery rate, definitely get one--just can't see what's in your tree to verify.

Ultimately, you don't need as much regen if you're only using RF for endgame bosses, because you're always going to be running around and casting spells and constantly triggering enough corpses and buffs that RF will not be a problem. I just wouldn't recommend it for mapping until you are able to sustain it without any extra mana regen buffs active.

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WorderMostFoul 님이 작성:

No problem!

So I'm not sure if the 675/second you're seeing is in-game or in PoB, because PoB will by default account for a lot more in the total it gives you than the in-game tooltip mana regen stat. To get PoB to reflect tooltip, I had to turn off Arcane Surge, unsocket my Watcher's Eye (increased recovery rate is not reflected on in-game tooltip), and check "always on full life" to keep Agnostic from applying a -20% mana/second penalty to the regen stat. I ended up with this: https://pastebin.com/7JGwp9gU

That shows 1,644 mana/sec regen, as opposed to 1,505 tooltip. So there's something else in there that I'm not accounting for.

For reference, this is what my PoB would actually look like for DPS and other stats during active single-target combat (all flasks unchecked cuz you'll never have all flasks up constantly during the Awakener fight and it's disingenuous to pretend otherwise): https://pastebin.com/2NRecDVa

Anyway, I can't see your profile because it's set to private, but if I had to guess, the extra tooltip regen I have over you is likely coming from these two items, if you don't already have them or equivalent regen elsewhere on your gear/tree that I don't:

If you don't have a Watcher's Eye with increased mana recovery rate, definitely get one--just can't see what's in your tree to verify.

Ultimately, you don't need as much regen if you're only using RF for endgame bosses, because you're always going to be running around and casting spells and constantly triggering enough corpses and buffs that RF will not be a problem. I just wouldn't recommend it for mapping until you are able to sustain it without any extra mana regen buffs active.

Thanks again. Even if I don't have a Lacquered Garb, I have a Watcher's Eye and a Stygian Vise belt with increased mana recovery rate, therefore I don't guess why my mana regen is SO MUCH smaller than yours. My regen is currently at ~700mana/s by the in-game tooltip.
I've set my profile public (please keep in mind that I play in standard), if you want to give a look and provide some suggestion I'd be very grateful.

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palajack 님이 작성:

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WorderMostFoul 님이 작성:

No problem!

So I'm not sure if the 675/second you're seeing is in-game or in PoB, because PoB will by default account for a lot more in the total it gives you than the in-game tooltip mana regen stat. To get PoB to reflect tooltip, I had to turn off Arcane Surge, unsocket my Watcher's Eye (increased recovery rate is not reflected on in-game tooltip), and check "always on full life" to keep Agnostic from applying a -20% mana/second penalty to the regen stat. I ended up with this: https://pastebin.com/7JGwp9gU

That shows 1,644 mana/sec regen, as opposed to 1,505 tooltip. So there's something else in there that I'm not accounting for.

For reference, this is what my PoB would actually look like for DPS and other stats during active single-target combat (all flasks unchecked cuz you'll never have all flasks up constantly during the Awakener fight and it's disingenuous to pretend otherwise): https://pastebin.com/2NRecDVa

Anyway, I can't see your profile because it's set to private, but if I had to guess, the extra tooltip regen I have over you is likely coming from these two items, if you don't already have them or equivalent regen elsewhere on your gear/tree that I don't:

If you don't have a Watcher's Eye with increased mana recovery rate, definitely get one--just can't see what's in your tree to verify.

Ultimately, you don't need as much regen if you're only using RF for endgame bosses, because you're always going to be running around and casting spells and constantly triggering enough corpses and buffs that RF will not be a problem. I just wouldn't recommend it for mapping until you are able to sustain it without any extra mana regen buffs active.

Thanks again. Even if I don't have a Lacquered Garb, I have a Watcher's Eye and a Stygian Vise belt with increased mana recovery rate, therefore I don't guess why my mana regen is SO MUCH smaller than yours. My regen is currently at ~700mana/s by the in-game tooltip.
I've set my profile public (please keep in mind that I play in standard), if you want to give a look and provide some suggestion I'd be very grateful.

So there are a couple things you can do.

First, allocate Mana Flows on your amulet. That is an overall improvement, anyway.

Next, your wand is a relatively straightforward thing to improve on. Your baseline should be 140+ mana and at least one other strong damage affix (like 100%+ spell or lightning damage), with good horticrafted affixes added from there. More power to you if you can get good mana regen on the wand.

Another option on top of those would be to remove the fire resist from your ring and benchcraft % increased mana regen. That with the other two would likely be enough to passively sustain RF.

But your best option overall is Cloak of Defiance still, because it gives a great mana boost, a HUGE boost to flat mana regen, and, most importantly of all, lowers your life while making up for it by increased MoM from 30% to 40% damage taken from mana before life. If you do the math, the extra 10% MoM gives you basically the equivalent of all the life you're not getting from a rare body armor, but your lower total life means RF is going to deal less damage. It's definitely a bolder gear choice, especially because you need to accommodate lost resistances and such elsewhere. But ultimately worth it, I think; the synergy with Atziri's Foible is crazy. Your max mana is already high enough that this alone would probably make RF viable. For sure if you combine it with anything above.

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WorderMostFoul 님이 작성:

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palajack 님이 작성:

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WorderMostFoul 님이 작성:

No problem!

So I'm not sure if the 675/second you're seeing is in-game or in PoB, because PoB will by default account for a lot more in the total it gives you than the in-game tooltip mana regen stat. To get PoB to reflect tooltip, I had to turn off Arcane Surge, unsocket my Watcher's Eye (increased recovery rate is not reflected on in-game tooltip), and check "always on full life" to keep Agnostic from applying a -20% mana/second penalty to the regen stat. I ended up with this: https://pastebin.com/7JGwp9gU

That shows 1,644 mana/sec regen, as opposed to 1,505 tooltip. So there's something else in there that I'm not accounting for.

For reference, this is what my PoB would actually look like for DPS and other stats during active single-target combat (all flasks unchecked cuz you'll never have all flasks up constantly during the Awakener fight and it's disingenuous to pretend otherwise): https://pastebin.com/2NRecDVa

Anyway, I can't see your profile because it's set to private, but if I had to guess, the extra tooltip regen I have over you is likely coming from these two items, if you don't already have them or equivalent regen elsewhere on your gear/tree that I don't:

If you don't have a Watcher's Eye with increased mana recovery rate, definitely get one--just can't see what's in your tree to verify.

Ultimately, you don't need as much regen if you're only using RF for endgame bosses, because you're always going to be running around and casting spells and constantly triggering enough corpses and buffs that RF will not be a problem. I just wouldn't recommend it for mapping until you are able to sustain it without any extra mana regen buffs active.

Thanks again. Even if I don't have a Lacquered Garb, I have a Watcher's Eye and a Stygian Vise belt with increased mana recovery rate, therefore I don't guess why my mana regen is SO MUCH smaller than yours. My regen is currently at ~700mana/s by the in-game tooltip.
I've set my profile public (please keep in mind that I play in standard), if you want to give a look and provide some suggestion I'd be very grateful.

So there are a couple things you can do.

First, allocate Mana Flows on your amulet. That is an overall improvement, anyway.

Next, your wand is a relatively straightforward thing to improve on. Your baseline should be 140+ mana and at least one other strong damage affix (like 100%+ spell or lightning damage), with good horticrafted affixes added from there. More power to you if you can get good mana regen on the wand.

Another option on top of those would be to remove the fire resist from your ring and benchcraft % increased mana regen. That with the other two would likely be enough to passively sustain RF.

But your best option overall is Cloak of Defiance still, because it gives a great mana boost, a HUGE boost to flat mana regen, and, most importantly of all, lowers your life while making up for it by increased MoM from 30% to 40% damage taken from mana before life. If you do the math, the extra 10% MoM gives you basically the equivalent of all the life you're not getting from a rare body armor, but your lower total life means RF is going to deal less damage. It's definitely a bolder gear choice, especially because you need to accommodate lost resistances and such elsewhere. But ultimately worth it, I think; the synergy with Atziri's Foible is crazy. Your max mana is already high enough that this alone would probably make RF viable. For sure if you combine it with anything above.

Thanks mate, I'll follow your suggestions and be back with some updates once I have them!

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JjForcebreaker 님이 작성:

Hi ppl, one big question (sorry but there's too much to read to seek answer in previous posts) -

I'm really tempted by Agnostic, that makes energy shield 0.
So after picking that and sticking to it, can I completely dump ES stat?
I know it's not that much but still most caster gear gives ES and throwing that away feels wrong, even knowing how good hp regen with high MP is.


Is it ok to for example pick vest with armour and evasion instead of robe with ES, or ES still is important and counts somewhere?
ATM I'm still leveling and have only ~970ES, but would be nice to get some armour instead of just throwing that out...

bump

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JjForcebreaker 님이 작성:

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JjForcebreaker 님이 작성:

Hi ppl, one big question (sorry but there's too much to read to seek answer in previous posts) -

I'm really tempted by Agnostic, that makes energy shield 0.
So after picking that and sticking to it, can I completely dump ES stat?
I know it's not that much but still most caster gear gives ES and throwing that away feels wrong, even knowing how good hp regen with high MP is.


Is it ok to for example pick vest with armour and evasion instead of robe with ES, or ES still is important and counts somewhere?
ATM I'm still leveling and have only ~970ES, but would be nice to get some armour instead of just throwing that out...

bump

Sorry--

Yes, Agnostic totally nullifies all ES. It's a minimal loss, though, since we don't really have room on our gear to invest much in ES or ES recovery and still get all the life/mana/resistance/misc damage modifiers that are of more benefit to us. Divide your unreserved mana pool by 5, and that's the amount of life recovery/second Agnostic can give you; I'd bet 1 second of Agnostic life recovery is worth more than your entire ES pool. That said, your character is still at level 76 and your gear isn't optimized yet, so I would probably advise against trying Agnostic until your max mana and mana recovery are more robust and able to theoretically support several seconds in a row of sacrificing 20% of your max unreserved mana. If you're not playing SSF, I'd start running the chaos recipe like a machine; you should have enough after a few hours to dramatically upgrade almost everything you're wearing, focusing on good mana/life and resistance rolls (and getting a body armour with 6 blue links). If you are playing SSF, focus on farming good crafts from your garden and IDing every potentially viable rare that drops, and you should still be able to find and make yourself better gear pretty quickly. Again, life, mana, and resistances on all armour/jewelry, and mana/increased spell/lightning damage on weapon.

Technically, the optimal way to deal with this from a gearing standpoint is to get as much base evasion on your gear as your dex is able to support, which honestly is unlikely to be that much with this build. The benefits are also minimal; my evasion hasn't broken 14% in endgame. That's not totally negligible, but it's not reliable enough to be considered a legitimate layer of defense. Also, aiming for evasion makes it more costly to get sockets colored on the gear that needs to house all- or mostly blue gem setups. Still, all things equal, when running Agnostic, you're better off having evasion than you are ES (literally useless) or armor (virtually useless). It feels bad losing the ES, but man it is SO worth it when you have the mana sustain required to support Agnostic.

So looking at poe.ninja:
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?item=Essence-Worm&skill=Vaal-Arc,Arc&sort=dps&dps=Arc

It seems like me, Frongz, and Szmicic are quite high in the DPS with this build.

However when I look at his gear I feel like I've mostly got better stuff. But since his DPS is that much higher I suppose I'm wrong. Maybe Szmicic is in the thread and can shed some light on this as well?

He's around 900k more dps than me according to poe.ninja, what am I missing in my build for such a huge dps difference?

Me: https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/believers/Frongz?i=6&search=item%3DEssence-Worm%26skill%3DVaal-Arc%2CArc%26sort%3Ddps%26dps%3DArc

Szmicic: https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/lamb%CE%BBd/Szmicic?i=3&search=item%3DEssence-Worm%26skill%3DVaal-Arc%2CArc%26sort%3Ddps%26dps%3DArc