[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

How do you get enough dex for Solar Guard variant that requires you to run Haste?
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Millennium 님이 작성:
How do you get enough dex for Solar Guard variant that requires you to run Haste?



Not sure where it's stated that Haste is a requirement. Maybe I overlooked something, but it certainly isn't a requirement.

Slap on 1 Unending Hunger Jewel and whether or not you use Flesh Offering, those things will machine gun their projectiles and clear packs faster than you can loot.

I use 2-3 SG's with no haste or FO on the spiciest of t15+ maps and they burn down the building with no problem. Just watch out for Ele Reflect maps.
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Millennium 님이 작성:
How do you get enough dex for Solar Guard variant that requires you to run Haste?



Not sure where it's stated that Haste is a requirement. Maybe I overlooked something, but it certainly isn't a requirement.

Slap on 1 Unending Hunger Jewel and whether or not you use Flesh Offering, those things will machine gun their projectiles and clear packs faster than you can loot.

I use 2-3 SG's with no haste or FO on the spiciest of t15+ maps and they burn down the building with no problem. Just watch out for Ele Reflect maps.

Which auras do you support solar guards with? Anger?

edit: Also do you need 1 or 2 unending hungers?
Millennium 님이 2018. 1. 23. 오후 2:03:23에 마지막으로 편집
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Millennium 님이 작성:

Which auras do you support solar guards with? Anger?

edit: Also do you need 1 or 2 unending hungers?




The only Aura I run is a level 15 clarity. You need to keep your mana pool unreserved otherwise MoM is useless.

And I only use 1 UH. I tried 2 but it's overkill as your SG's quickly get fed with just 1.
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Nickums 님이 작성:

I see what your saying, only problem is that such a shield costs a mighty amount of currency in Abyss atm.. Infact, I can't even see one with the resists and mana gain on block atm! In the interim I can get a Stone with either additional curse, or 20% minion damage.. Both are quite tempting!! I'm leaning towards curse, but am not sure which is the better choice..
I must admit, I did spend a tidy sum on that shield. There are other options, of course - life gained on block, or skip the gain on block entirely and find one with % block chance applied to spells, with life and resists.

I'd lean towards extra damage. The additional curse is nice on regular map bosses, but guardians / shaper all have seriously reduced curse effectiveness, so I'd rather front load the damage.
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HI Grimjack,

just looked at your char in detail and I'm pretty sure that you are wasting a lot of potential with taking this shield. If you would go for Lioneyes you would boost your life and armor. The Anvil gives you only one effective stat and thats 3% block. All other stats are just outperformed when switching that shield. So you you can get even more life and armor if you get a better amulet with spellblock and other stats. With the armor from lioneyes you have potentially as with your essence worm and the aura. So you could get a ways better ring with more life and mana.

In total you are trading around 1000+ combined life and mana for 3% block chance. Even a lot more if we consider, that you have invested 5 tree nodes to get your dex - with having that on ring and amulet you could further boost your live in the tree.
willo77 님이 2018. 1. 23. 오후 5:49:12에 마지막으로 편집
I feel like no matter how I do I am still lacking tankiness or dps output significantly compare to last league with 3TV+1WM set up.

right now I am sitting at 6,200 hp with 2,700 mana. I am wondering should I switch to all SG or use the remorse shield to be tankier? Also have tried VisMoti but my hp just tanked to around 5k, really not good. I fking hate GGG for taking WM out of this build. check my gear and show me how to get more points in tankiness and dps.
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Imurgod 님이 작성:
I feel like no matter how I do I am still lacking tankiness or dps output significantly compare to last league with 3TV+1WM set up.

right now I am sitting at 6,200 hp with 2,700 mana. I am wondering should I switch to all SG or use the remorse shield to be tankier? Also have tried VisMoti but my hp just tanked to around 5k, really not good. I fking hate GGG for taking WM out of this build. check my gear and show me how to get more points in tankiness and dps.


You should also change amulet and shield and have a closer look at the tree. You've taken a lot of ineffective minion nodes and shield nodes that could all be invested into life and jewels.Vis Mortis would drastically increase your dps.

You can have a look at my build and gear. I have more than 11k health+mana and around 1.5k ES + 30% Armour.
Also your flasks are far away from being optimal.
willo77 님이 2018. 1. 23. 오후 6:13:08에 마지막으로 편집
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willo77 님이 작성:
HI Grimjack,

just looked at your char in detail and I'm pretty sure that you are wasting a lot of potential with taking this shield. If you would go for Lioneyes you would boost your life and armor. The Anvil gives you only one effective stat and thats 3% block. All other stats are just outperformed when switching that shield. So you you can get even more life and armor if you get a better amulet with spellblock and other stats. With the armor from lioneyes you have potentially as with your essence worm and the aura. So you could get a ways better ring with more life and mana.

In total you are trading around 1000+ combined life and mana for 3% block chance. Even a lot more if we consider, that you have invested 5 tree nodes to get your dex - with having that on ring and amulet you could further boost your live in the tree.
:) I have the other setups as well. I swap shield / amulet / aura based on what content I'm doing. What you are looking at is the high red map tier setup. Still looking to pick up a 6/7 link helm so I can add in TVs when I want to.

I'd be set up much closer to your suggestions for guardians or shaper - lioneyes, amulet with spell block, I'd pull all my dex nodes off the tree for extra life and armour, because on guardians or more I don't care about running haste, slow and steady wins the race.

However, explaining how and why to respec my character for various challenges is far outside the scope of this thread, so I try to keep it simple. Also, telling new players that I spend ~10 regret orbs every time I switch between fighting Shaper and running maps tends to scare them away!
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Millennium 님이 작성:
How do you get enough dex for Solar Guard variant that requires you to run Haste?


On gears. But you may prefer another tree for pure Solar Guards. This thread focuses more on burning spectres and SG are just secondary.

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