[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

"

Gabriel_666_DVL 님이 작성:

"

pattycak3 님이 작성:

I need advice as to what to use for boss killing for Solar guards(?)

Swap GMP for Slower Projectiles Support.
But best way is to keep both SG and TV buy having 6L helmet. 3SG 1 TV mapping and 3TV 1SG boss kill.

I already do the SG with SMP, but its still not as good as TVs.

Also, i got three T16 TV spectres and one SG to compare this setup for single target on T12, I got an Abyss depth and got the guy that spawns crystals on the floor, all my T15 TV spectres died, is this a known weakness for melee range spectres?

"

pattycak3 님이 작성:

Also, i got three T16 TV spectres and one SG to compare this setup for single target on T12, I got an Abyss depth and got the guy that spawns crystals on the floor, all my T15 TV spectres died, is this a known weakness for melee range spectres?

This guy is pain in the ass for any melee :) Ofc there are melee builds that can farm him well, but spectre can't be tanky as exile.

"

pattycak3 님이 작성:

"

Gabriel_666_DVL 님이 작성:

"

pattycak3 님이 작성:

I need advice as to what to use for boss killing for Solar guards(?)

Swap GMP for Slower Projectiles Support.
But best way is to keep both SG and TV buy having 6L helmet. 3SG 1 TV mapping and 3TV 1SG boss kill.

I already do the SG with SMP, but its still not as good as TVs.

Also, i got three T16 TV spectres and one SG to compare this setup for single target on T12, I got an Abyss depth and got the guy that spawns crystals on the floor, all my T15 TV spectres died, is this a known weakness for melee range spectres?

Well, melee is at a natural disadvantage since the beginning of time. I don't even know if you're talking about Amanamu or Ulaman because I never paid attention to their mechanics during my SG time. You just walk around the edge of combat and maintain EE/Curses and Fortify. Same for the Elder fight.
I've gone into detail about SGs vs TVs in my previous posts. Don't want to repeat myself to spare those people who read every word of this thread ;)

edit: tone

Thank you for the zombie...will not force them anymore...one more question, is SG better then wickerman?i have 3 TV's and 1 wickerman...thanks

"

Gabriel_666_DVL 님이 작성:

"

grimjack68 님이 작성:

Zombies don't matter, and his AG won't have problems surviving in a +2 minion gems helm until very late in the end game.

My AG die in 2 sec vs T13 Malformation map boss with 70% inc cast speed. Ofc i dont have +2 helmet, but i dont think 8% HP can deal with dat :)

Piety in Malformation is one of the few examples of map bosses that _require_ tactics to beat. Very few things can outright facetank her beam, and AG doesn't have smart enough AI to pull it off.

"

kervie17 님이 작성:

Thank you for the zombie...will not force them anymore...one more question, is SG better then wickerman?i have 3 TV's and 1 wickerman...thanks

Absolutely. Wickermen have been nerfed too hard, IMO. However, they don't use the same support jewels, while Wikermen DO use the same jewels as TVs.

Edit: Spelling.

Hey guys, great thread and build I've got 2 guardians down and am pushing towards the shaper. I am looking to switch to the quasi 6 link helm and I have a question I'm hoping you can help. I rolled a elder helm with 20 minion damage, 16 burning damage, and 18 concentrated effect do we get any benefit from that conf effect, or should I continue rolling the helm for something better. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Edit: I'm on Xbox

Any improvements? I have only 1 guardian an red elder down. Level 89. Full TV and fire golems.



Also one question, why always clarity? Isn't for example Anger better for more fire damage to minions? In my situation fire golems and TV?

One quick question, im was thinking about wicker men skills and i started to google for info so as the guide says "they are big bears" who can be found in the ravaged square... but they arent bears at all they are some kind of ugly monster... am i right? or im getting the wrong dude cause the tukohama's vanguards are great but i dont see any righteous fire (if it has any animation like the skill gem) coming from the wickers.

So I completely destroyed the Gaurdians but when I did shaper things didn't go as smoothly. I managed to get him to the 3rd phase but was out of portals. The issue was my spectres and minions were dying quite easy to him. So I'm panicking trying to get them back which caused me to not focus on the fight as much. Could someone look at my character and give me some tips or something to change to help me. I used 4 tukohoma vangaurds for the single target damage. Thanks in advance