[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

Please pay attention to your specter damage.
You need the mob to be alive so you can capture them. It is easy to control hp's mob with self-cast skill but it is much harder ( or even impossible ) with the spectre.
Just like Vorci's keep target low health mission.
Please pay attention to it.

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Lacceh 님이 작성:

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Nahsik 님이 작성:

So this is what was in the patch notes that we already didn't know:

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Minion damage has been adjusted, and all minion types (except Raging Spirits) will now attack more quickly, but deal less base damage. This also fixes a long-standing issue where added damage would only apply in-part to most minions, so many minions will also get up to 50% more damage from sources of added damage. Sources of increased attack speed for your minions will now be correctly multiplicative with their base attack speed.

This means spectres have been buffed!

No, they just normalize attacks. Attack faster, deal less damage -> about the same end-result, just more responsive, maybe very slight increase in clearspeed for attack-based minions(so 0.00001% of summoners).

That's not what they mean. They mean they will start doing less damage but scale better. This means they will be worse up front and be better (or the same) once your fully geared.

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N4Z 님이 작성:

Please pay attention to your specter damage.
You need the mob to be alive so you can capture them. It is easy to control hp's mob with self-cast skill but it is much harder ( or even impossible ) with the spectre.
Just like Vorci's keep target low health mission.
Please pay attention to it.

I worry this league will be unnecro friendly for the mechanics. Its sad we are hoping the beasts have a lot of hit points. If not its a minion dead league.

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Djae 님이 작성:

Why does Lacceh sounds so mad about everything?

How exactly did you arrive at that conclusion? Seems like a mental asylum in here with delusional inmates, I guess I appear to stand out being the only one discussing things in a factual and reasonable manner.

So, do you have anything substantial to contribute with, or just here to spam ad hominem?

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Zalhan2 님이 작성:

That's not what they mean. They mean they will start doing less damage but scale better. This means they will be worse up front and be better (or the same) once your fully geared.

That's not what's being said, you're simply making things up here.
They are making minions' base attacks faster, so they are smoother when switching between targets and have less downtime(long overdue), and as such they normalize their base dmg, so in the end they will do about the same damage output, just more responsive overall.

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Nahsik 님이 작성:

Emotional unstable? Not sure why he is still here since he has been ranting and raving that this is a bad build due to nerf of bone offering. Seems to take everything as an argument.Lol the hypocrisy will be if he plays this build next league.

Yet another straw-man... I have actually never said that at all, the build was dead long before that - the moment WM became useless when 3.1 hit.

And why would I ever play this build, that has negative clearspeed? lol. No thank you I create my own builds. :)

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Zalhan2 님이 작성:

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N4Z 님이 작성:

Please pay attention to your specter damage.
You need the mob to be alive so you can capture them. It is easy to control hp's mob with self-cast skill but it is much harder ( or even impossible ) with the spectre.
Just like Vorci's keep target low health mission.
Please pay attention to it.

I worry this league will be unnecro friendly for the mechanics. Its sad we are hoping the beasts have a lot of hit points. If not its a minion dead league.

I just thought about rerolling specter build as my "second in the row" starter league but I might decide to put it on hold at this stage.

I think I will forget the beasts, run maps, and let them build the equipment for me to buy.
I ran zombies last time who did ok until t14+ . Now they are buffed so will use them again.

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vileArchon 님이 작성:

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I have not called anybody names, but you are calling me one... thanks for the ad hominem, and also appeal to popularity fallacy.
I've done nothing but engage in reasonable and factual discussion. It's not my fault that ppl are delusional and choose to deny facts about their build beyond reason.

Why the hell would I play this outdated no-clearspeed build? I've already answered this, I already have my build ready for Bestiary(Vegan certified, HC, non-SSF). You people are just ridiculous.

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Lacceh 님이 작성:

I have not called anybody names, but you are calling me one... thanks for the ad hominem, and also appeal to popularity fallacy.

lol, you can't be for real

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Lacceh 님이 작성:

Why the hell would I play this outdated no-clearspeed build? I've already answered this, I already have my build ready for Bestiary(Vegan certified, HC, non-SSF). You people are just ridiculous.

If you're not interested in the build then leave the thread please, thank you :)