[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

I skipped Mind over Matter and Inspiration and took them at lvl 40-45 if I remember correctly.

This give you Death Attunement in early 30s
Is there some kind of threshold I need to pass for this build to feel good ?

Right now the DPS is ok and it kills packs, but this FEELS super slow. Whirling blades is slow since Fortress isn't a fast weapon and we don't have frenzy charges, Shield charge is slow since Ullr only have 10-ish%...

I know I'm switching from an autobomber and shouldn't expect that much clearspeed since we also can shit on bosses, but that's the feeling I'm getting right now.

I haven't dwelved yet in the Animate Guardian, so I don't know how much clearspeed it adds. But I've seen friends just zooming around and clearing T13 super fast and as it's my very first Spectres build I have no idea how to achieve that.
I got a question for anyone who can answer

why he adds faster casting on bone offering, flesh offering and duration?
isnt the spell instant anyway? and lasts for like 6-7 seconds?
maderi 님이 2018. 3. 24. 오후 6:01:39에 마지막으로 편집
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Kortiah 님이 작성:
Is there some kind of threshold I need to pass for this build to feel good ?

Right now the DPS is ok and it kills packs, but this FEELS super slow. Whirling blades is slow since Fortress isn't a fast weapon and we don't have frenzy charges, Shield charge is slow since Ullr only have 10-ish%...

I know I'm switching from an autobomber and shouldn't expect that much clearspeed since we also can shit on bosses, but that's the feeling I'm getting right now.

I haven't dwelved yet in the Animate Guardian, so I don't know how much clearspeed it adds. But I've seen friends just zooming around and clearing T13 super fast and as it's my very first Spectres build I have no idea how to achieve that.
You can go for solar guards for way better clear speed, but slower boss killing. You need GMP/Controlled Destruction/Elemental focus instead of burning damage/minion resistance/swift affliction, the rest is all the same. A more expensive way to compensate the clear speed, is to use flame golems, or an elder helm for mixed spectres, see the "Build Alterations" section.

You can replace fortress with The Scourge, for better speed, and also better minion damage. The scourge certainly feels better then fortress.

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maderi 님이 작성:
I got a question for anyone who can answer

why he adds faster casting on bone offering, flesh offering and duration?
isnt the spell instant anyway? and lasts for like 6-7 seconds?

Desecrate has 0.8 sec cast time, bone offering has 1 sec cast time.
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6_din_49 님이 작성:
You can go for solar guards for way better clear speed, but slower boss killing. You need GMP/Controlled Destruction/Elemental focus instead of burning damage/minion resistance/swift affliction, the rest is all the same. A more expensive way to compensate the clear speed, is to use flame golems, or an elder helm for mixed spectres, see the "Build Alterations" section.

You can replace fortress with The Scourge, for better speed, and also better minion damage. The scourge certainly feels better then fortress.


I'm already playing with 4 Solar guards. But somehow the gameplay feels super slow due to the low movespeed and attackspeed.
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Kortiah 님이 작성:
I'm already playing with 4 Solar guards. But somehow the gameplay feels super slow due to the low movespeed and attackspeed.


This is my first time playing a summoner so I'm still getting the hang of it as well, but I highly recommend getting a brightbeak and using shield charge for mapping. This, with more efficient use of convocation, has me clearing maps much faster than I was previously when using WB w/ Fortress.

At the end of the day though, imo this build is more of a boss killer, while having decent mapping. Similar to GC mines.
Trying out this as my first summoner build ever. Would it be better to use zombies with some buffing gems or put a curse on hit and warlords mark/temp chains/enfeeble to go with arc? (Is there a reason not many people use arc? I like it the most out of recommended here.)

I dont think I will have enough room for both since having both low lvl desecrate and bone/flesh offering on a cast when damage taken seems super nice. BSC btw.

EDIT: Will my animate guardian be ok with whirling blades+faster attacks+fortify or is that empower/minion life needed in the mix for him to survive well enough? Just confused cause the guide shows different gem setups in the gear and gems sections.
dransureu 님이 2018. 3. 25. 오전 3:51:41에 마지막으로 편집
Hello. If i have only 5l for solar guards, then controlled destruction or elem. focus would be better for last slot? And 2x dyadus setup works for sg or only for tv?
rxi845 님이 2018. 3. 25. 오전 6:13:52에 마지막으로 편집
I have a tabula rasa and a vismortis 5L, what should I use/keep as gem if I use the vismortis?
TR with gem


Vismortis:


Currently mapping with solar guard. Will use TVs later.

Your opinion?
DPS is better with 5L Vis Mortis, and also you get some nice ES, I don't see any reason why continue with Tabula Rasa.

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