[3.9] Pure Phys Skeletons & Friends Necromancer — Beginner/SSF/Budget Build

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corranosgor 님이 작성:

Thanks to you for explaining.

But one Last question, IS IT right that i need to use normal skeleton gem instead of Vaal akeletons If i use this Setup?

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Solanales 님이 작성:

The chaos golem... /shrug? It's neat for the damage reduction I guess. This is again getting into the "infinite customization" part of the build lol. There's always things you trade to do any of this.

You trade off power and frenzy uptime for taunt and vuln for example on spectres. You trade off additional Carrion damage for a Chaos Golem. It's all preference. Just try it and see how it feels. There's literally zero harm in trying any of these things out and that's why this build works well as a framework to get started.

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DonChilly1984 님이 작성:

As this is my first forum post I have no idea how to link items here, anyone interested can look at my character in my public profile.

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Dendol 님이 작성:

Is really required Dread Banner + Generosity? 'Cause i just have Dead Banner...

My set 1.5M

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varmemester 님이 작성:

I get that it is a trade off - but not regarding damage. Chaos golems do more than double the amount of damage compared to Carrion Golems. But that is not the real trade off since it is such a small amount golems do compared to skeletons. The trade off is the gem slot (in the 4-link: Summon Carrion Golem, Feeding Frenzy, Maim and ??). I couldn't find any better gem to put there that tops 5% damage reduction.

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DonChilly1984 님이 작성:

I've been following the discussions and suggestions in this thread since the start of the league, so thank you guys for a lot of good ideas that have added depth to the original build.

And as this build has evolved for me from "maybe time to try out summoner, guess this league gear won't be as expensive" to "holy crap this is the best build I've ever played, there are so many things to min-max", maybe I can contribute a few of my own ideas that I have incorporated in addition to the by now well known things like Impale, Drad Banner + Generosity or AG.

As this is my first forum post I have no idea how to link items here, anyone interested can look at my character in my public profile.

- Some people already have mentioned the use of wands with "Trigger a socketed spell when you use a skill", but just to be a little more specific: if you put Desecrate, Spirit Offering (or Flesh Offering if you prefer it) and a curse in it, you will automatically while shield charging or casting Skeletons
-> desecrate and use offering every 1-2 seconds (nice additional layer of defense with the constant energy shield buffer and instant reg)
-> cast your curse of choice
Personally I found it much more reliable than CWDT and have forgone Flesh Offering altogether.

- When using a defensive setup with wand + shield and a curse in the wand or CWDT-setup, it is easy to incorporate Vulnerabilty with a "Curse enemies with Vulnerabilty on hit" ring, as we are already pathing near Whispers of Doom in the tree and can apply it with Shield Charge.

- To expand a little bit on Shield Charge, as we are relatively free in our choice of gloves (aside from life, necessary resistances and a free Prefix for Minion Damage) I can highly recommend a pair with "Socketed Gems have 16% more attack and cast speed" and socketing your Shield Charge + Faster Attacks in here for ultimate zoom zoom.

- As I have ~10700 eHP and personally hate the clunky feel of MoM, I've included Dread Banner, Pride and Skitterbots for a big damage boost. To leave enough mana unreserved for casting, you can either get a "Pride has 15% reduced mana reservation" enchant, path to Sovereignty or use Enlighten linked with at least Pride.

- As I was absolutly socket starved with all the stuff I tried packing into the build, some suggestions how to cut a few things down:
-> Raise Spectre + Blood Magic is enough for them to survive 95% of the content and they are easily resummoned
-> If you are using a helmet with "socketed gems are supported by level x minion life", you can further optimize by putting AG + Zombies + Meat Shield into it (and maybe add Elemental Army Support if you have the place for it)
-> Carrion Golems only need Maim as a Support Gem, and Feeding Frenzy if you have cut that from the 6 - link

Hope some of that wall of text will give someone new ideas, like you guys did for me many times.

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varmemester 님이 작성:

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DonChilly1984 님이 작성:

I've been following the discussions and suggestions in this thread since the start of the league, so thank you guys for a lot of good ideas that have added depth to the original build.

And as this build has evolved for me from "maybe time to try out summoner, guess this league gear won't be as expensive" to "holy crap this is the best build I've ever played, there are so many things to min-max", maybe I can contribute a few of my own ideas that I have incorporated in addition to the by now well known things like Impale, Drad Banner + Generosity or AG.

As this is my first forum post I have no idea how to link items here, anyone interested can look at my character in my public profile.

- Some people already have mentioned the use of wands with "Trigger a socketed spell when you use a skill", but just to be a little more specific: if you put Desecrate, Spirit Offering (or Flesh Offering if you prefer it) and a curse in it, you will automatically while shield charging or casting Skeletons
-> desecrate and use offering every 1-2 seconds (nice additional layer of defense with the constant energy shield buffer and instant reg)
-> cast your curse of choice
Personally I found it much more reliable than CWDT and have forgone Flesh Offering altogether.

- When using a defensive setup with wand + shield and a curse in the wand or CWDT-setup, it is easy to incorporate Vulnerabilty with a "Curse enemies with Vulnerabilty on hit" ring, as we are already pathing near Whispers of Doom in the tree and can apply it with Shield Charge.

- To expand a little bit on Shield Charge, as we are relatively free in our choice of gloves (aside from life, necessary resistances and a free Prefix for Minion Damage) I can highly recommend a pair with "Socketed Gems have 16% more attack and cast speed" and socketing your Shield Charge + Faster Attacks in here for ultimate zoom zoom.

- As I have ~10700 eHP and personally hate the clunky feel of MoM, I've included Dread Banner, Pride and Skitterbots for a big damage boost. To leave enough mana unreserved for casting, you can either get a "Pride has 15% reduced mana reservation" enchant, path to Sovereignty or use Enlighten linked with at least Pride.

- As I was absolutly socket starved with all the stuff I tried packing into the build, some suggestions how to cut a few things down:
-> Raise Spectre + Blood Magic is enough for them to survive 95% of the content and they are easily resummoned
-> If you are using a helmet with "socketed gems are supported by level x minion life", you can further optimize by putting AG + Zombies + Meat Shield into it (and maybe add Elemental Army Support if you have the place for it)
-> Carrion Golems only need Maim as a Support Gem, and Feeding Frenzy if you have cut that from the 6 - link

Hope some of that wall of text will give someone new ideas, like you guys did for me many times.

Thanks a lot! Definitely want to try some of your ideas!

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Draxinusom 님이 작성:

I'm toying a bit with the idea of switching the ascendancy from Mistress of Sacrifice to Commander of Darkness. The main thing lost is skill effect duration and offerings on myself. In turn +30% damage and +20% resist all, freeing up more affixes on gear. Has anyone already done this?

Losing Spirit offering on me is the only real drawback as I see it. On the other hand getting quite a damage boost and a non trivial amount of resists.

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Undisputed22 님이 작성:

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varmemester 님이 작성:

Thanks a lot! Definitely want to try some of your ideas!

Definitely some interesting ideas I want to try. I'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion into whispers of doom. I think another option with the Vulerability is to use Merveil's retainer as one of our 4 spectres to cast the lvl 30 vulnerability for us.