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" Until you reach endgame gear, which takes quite the investment, you are literally taking the majority of minion survivability nodes for them to survive. Take away more life from them and you may not be able to keep them alive through content long enough to be able to farm for said gear. And no, support spectres weren't just icing on the cake, they allowed for the other minion builds to function well with important buffs. Zombies got hit, Stone/Carrion Golems got hit, SRS got hit, etc. Its just like with AG providing Kingmaker buff, it makes a build work that much better and when you take away certain key aspects of a build like support spectres, you decimate a build because it requires all of its parts as a whole to function. |
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" Sorry but you are delusional. Literally nobody goes out of their way to take any extra minion life or minion defense, just damage. (For a dedicated damage RS build, NOT support). They only need capped res, obviously, which is easy, and they get minion regen from tree as you're picking up damage. What do you mean by farming gear? Farming red maps? Farming T16-s, even SD-s are easy to keep alive and they are squishy as hell, so there's no way for the high base HP ones to ever die just farming T16-s. As for support spectres: well perhaps GGG thought that they provided too great bonuses for incredibly low investment, and you should consider investing into minion defenses? Just a thought. " You are not supposed to raise them mid-fight. You are supposed to keep them alive. If you cannot keep them alive, then you need to go back to the drawing board. |
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" That is wrong. Any non-average spectre focused builder knows that Sacrifice and Indomitably Army, purely defensive nodes, are needed for your minions to survive endgame. So defensive nodes were NEVER not taken. |
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You cannot argue that this build is not viable for casual players anymore because of spectres being too squishy... Casual players do not reach the point where this becomes an issue. How many players make it to red maps? Like 1%?
Not hating here, I like to play this build and was planning it as my league starter but I think this rage about the nerfs is going a bit too far... |
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Hello,
i just want to say "Thanks" for the most beautiful layouted best detailed and effective Build (-variants). Thank you very much Kay, i had a few nice Chars with your help. Looking forward to 3.13 :) |
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Now we need more Minion Life nodes to occupy.
Will play new League with Kay's builds as always. See you in 3 days :) |
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We still have some hopes... i was playing SO last league, with a 2.10% life ratio. Now i will be playing Artless Assassin with the 5.20% life ratio and almost same gameplay/gear. Yeah we will notice the dmg nerf, but i still think we will face check every content in the game with ease.
what you guys think ? |
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Imagine spamming the same build, every single league, facerolling end game content, a couple of days into the league with close to no budget, just stacking life and defences, while having something else do all the work/damage for you.
Oh wait its spectre builds. This has literally been the case for a good couple YEARS. The amount of complaining and crying over a well DESERVED nerf is absolutely astonishing. People like you trying to make numeral of posts on different forums begging not to nerf their precious spectres are pathetic, just play something else. And start acting like adults, not some spoiled teenagers. | |
I'll wait for the patchnotes, to see what other nerfs we got, but from what I can see, ggg just wants the spectres to be ran as any other minion build (zombies or skellies).
What I mean by this is the following: Empower 4, mandatory 2h weapon with +1 skills, 100+ minion damage and crafted +2 support (with empower too). With just empower we are back to the same minion levels we were using before the nerf, we "just" lose a gem slot. Still viable, more expensive and cumbersome and 0 build identity, but meh. keep on summoning folks! Edit: I'll still give necro summoner a shot, since that's the only archetype I enjoy playing on rpgs/arpgs + hand issues mc29654363#6311 님이 2021. 1. 12. 오전 8:12:49에 마지막으로 편집
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It might be a little weird, but I'm looking forward to starting the League as SSF Necro.
Level 96 is my goal this time :) |