[3.8] A CI/LL Tri-Curse Herald of Agony Occultist [Deathless Uber Elder, League Starter]

Hello all,

Just a quick word regarding the "Quill Rain VS multi modded bow" question: indeed, a multi modded bow grants the more theoretical dps, but your average number of virulence stacks has a very important influence on your actual dps, and I find it very easy to stay between 36 and 40 virulence versus Uber Elder, and I'm closer to 32-36 with a rare bow with attack speed on it. A multi modded bow grants more damage than a Quill Rain, but not as much as PoB tells you (PoB assumes we have 40 virulence stacks).

Also, this point is completely subjective, but I value quality of life above some damage upgrades, and playing with Quill Rain feels really good. But it's just my opinion :)
First time in my path of exile history got to uber elder and managed to kill him without too much trouble, died two times because of personal mistakes but it's nothing.

Build forgives alot of mistakes, feels nice overall, thanks for making a guide for it!
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Vatinas 님이 작성:
Hello all,

Just a quick word regarding the "Quill Rain VS multi modded bow" question: indeed, a multi modded bow grants the more theoretical dps, but your average number of virulence stacks has a very important influence on your actual dps, and I find it very easy to stay between 36 and 40 virulence versus Uber Elder, and I'm closer to 32-36 with a rare bow with attack speed on it. A multi modded bow grants more damage than a Quill Rain, but not as much as PoB tells you (PoB assumes we have 40 virulence stacks).

Also, this point is completely subjective, but I value quality of life above some damage upgrades, and playing with Quill Rain feels really good. But it's just my opinion :)



With a 1.68+ attack speed bow linked with faster attacks you will have 40 virulence stacks. You can free the link up for faster attacks by getting corrupted gloves w/ temp chains. You can get a pair of shaper's touch with temp chains or enfeeble for 20-30 chaos. Shaper's touch provides more ES than a pair of rare gloves would because I seek strength anywhere possible.

I have 3.4 milllion shaper dps. 15,200 es. I believe my profile is public. Character is Gotdamncelestials. The bow is relatively easy to craft and gives a level 28 crawler.

It kills uber elder in 2-3 minutes. It kills guardians in less than ten seconds.

Arguably you could say that the build won't have 15 wither stacks up and it wouldn't have spirit offering procced 100%. If we take both of those away the build has 2.5 million shaper DPS.

The final form of the build im hoping to do is getting a pair of enfeeble shaper's touch and then I'm trying to get vorici on research to hopefully hit a white socket in place of a blue on my vaal regalia. If that happens then when i fight bosses I can swap temp chains for withering touch and guarantee 15 wither stacks vs bossses.

I'm pretty confident this is about the max this build can be pushed.




EDIT; for reference my 1.69 multimod bow w/ faster attacks is 0.27 attack time. While a quill rain without attack speed is 0.23
gjmine09 님이 2018. 12. 23. 오후 4:09:39에 마지막으로 편집
Got a couple noob crafter questions.

1) Can i reroll crafted mods values with "can have multiple crafts" mod? Like if i craft the same mod multiple times?
2) Can i multicraft a bow with +1 to support gems and then somehow recraft it with +2 (when i find the mod) without paying for the "can have multiple crafts" mod again?
3) I know that local "increased attack speed" on a bow is multiplicative. But what about that "increased attack speed while a rare/unique is nearby". Is that one multiplicative? Are you sure? Because it is a bad mod if it isn't.

Would be very grateful for a competent answer.
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Fortran775 님이 작성:
Got a couple noob crafter questions.

1) Can i reroll crafted mods values with "can have multiple crafts" mod? Like if i craft the same mod multiple times?
2) Can i multicraft a bow with +1 to support gems and then somehow recraft it with +2 (when i find the mod) without paying for the "can have multiple crafts" mod again?
3) I know that local "increased attack speed" on a bow is multiplicative. But what about that "increased attack speed while a rare/unique is nearby". Is that one multiplicative? Are you sure? Because it is a bad mod if it isn't.

Would be very grateful for a competent answer.


Your questions.
1. No. To get better rolls you have to divine.
2. There is no +2 for socketed gems. Only socketed +2 BOW gems. That doesn't help the pet.
3. The new mod increased attack speed while a rare/unique is nearby is NOT local to the bow. I don't recommend crafting it.


Steps to craft the best bow below;

1. Elder thicket, grove, or short bow. Item level 86.

2. Perfect fossil it for 28+ quality. This helps six link it later.

3. Alteration spam for Vicious projectiles level 20 and regal orb the bow

4. Annul the mods you aug'd or regel leaving only vicous projectile

5. Once your bow is rare/yellow and has only vicious projectiles on it you craft Cannot Roll Attack mods. Then you exalt and hope you hit the prefix which can only be +1 socketed gems. If you hit a suffix its fine you just have to exalt again and if you hit a suffix again you exalt once again(x2) and you will get the prefix of +1 gems. Luck can save you 3 exalt here if you hit +1 gems on your first try and have no suffixes on the bow.

6. If you got lucky and exalted a +1 gems on your first try in step 5 then you skip this step. If not then you have to get rid of all the suffixes. Craft Prefixes Cannot be Changed and scour orb the bow. This leaves you with a rare bow that has only two prefixes. Those are +1 to socketed gems and vicious projectiles.

7. Now that you have your bow with two mods on it you craft Can Have Multiple Mods on the bow. Followed by attack speed. Followed by +2 to Socketed Support Gems. Followed by Minions have 25-28 increased attack speed.

The bow costs 7-11ex depending on your luck.



What flasks do you recommend?
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gjmine09 님이 작성:

Steps to craft the best bow below

WOW that was tricky! Thank you very much for this guide!
Fortran775 님이 2018. 12. 24. 오전 1:34:52에 마지막으로 편집
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gjmine09 님이 작성:
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Fortran775 님이 작성:
Got a couple noob crafter questions.

1) Can i reroll crafted mods values with "can have multiple crafts" mod? Like if i craft the same mod multiple times?
2) Can i multicraft a bow with +1 to support gems and then somehow recraft it with +2 (when i find the mod) without paying for the "can have multiple crafts" mod again?
3) I know that local "increased attack speed" on a bow is multiplicative. But what about that "increased attack speed while a rare/unique is nearby". Is that one multiplicative? Are you sure? Because it is a bad mod if it isn't.

Would be very grateful for a competent answer.


Your questions.
1. No. To get better rolls you have to divine.
2. There is no +2 for socketed gems. Only socketed +2 BOW gems. That doesn't help the pet.
3. The new mod increased attack speed while a rare/unique is nearby is NOT local to the bow. I don't recommend crafting it.


Steps to craft the best bow below;

1. Elder thicket, grove, or short bow. Item level 86.

2. Perfect fossil it for 28+ quality. This helps six link it later.

3. Alteration spam for Vicious projectiles level 20 and regal orb the bow

4. Annul the mods you aug'd or regel leaving only vicous projectile

5. Once your bow is rare/yellow and has only vicious projectiles on it you craft Cannot Roll Attack mods. Then you exalt and hope you hit the prefix which can only be +1 socketed gems. If you hit a suffix its fine you just have to exalt again and if you hit a suffix again you exalt once again(x2) and you will get the prefix of +1 gems. Luck can save you 3 exalt here if you hit +1 gems on your first try and have no suffixes on the bow.

6. If you got lucky and exalted a +1 gems on your first try in step 5 then you skip this step. If not then you have to get rid of all the suffixes. Craft Prefixes Cannot be Changed and scour orb the bow. This leaves you with a rare bow that has only two prefixes. Those are +1 to socketed gems and vicious projectiles.

7. Now that you have your bow with two mods on it you craft Can Have Multiple Mods on the bow. Followed by attack speed. Followed by +2 to Socketed Support Gems. Followed by Minions have 25-28 increased attack speed.

The bow costs 7-11ex depending on your luck.





That's a very well detailed explanation of the crafting, may I add it to the guide?
@gjmine09 thx a lot for the details !
I just burn like all my currencies for the +1 + crafts bow, won't do your trick so :(

and by reading your details, it made me realise that we should always switch enfeeble/TC out for Withering touch/despair on bosses ?
Maybe the 2 new gems won't add that much, but it'll still be more than 2 (useless on bosses) curses ?
Destroying everything right now, but Im really for tips on the setup to use vs hard hard bosses (uelder/uber-atziri basiccaly)

gonna try this build now to diversify as I never did CI before

I tought I was gonna enjoy the hell out of this league but im pretty bored, everything seems the same and easy so im looking for fun builds that can also clear all content.

I tried Freezing Pulse totems, it is very powerful but I didnt enjoy the playstyle very much.

I will share my progress with you if its ok

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