{3.10} Speaker for the Dead | The Mass Minion Summoner | League Starter, Leveling Guide 💀

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Kirian42 님이 작성:

As someone said in the Reddit patch notes thread, this is a massacre, but I think that's going to be true for *every* build.

You mention several different variants in your analysis. Is there a list of the variants people have been using? I assume, for instance, that when you say Charity Triad you're talking about the build I was using (1H with Victario's, Triad Grip with 4x green) but I'm not sure.

Edit: In particular, I think the Spectre nerf is huge and terrible. Either have to have Empower, or socket in a +2 to Minion gems helmet, or have some of source of +Level to gems.

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WeaponizedSP 님이 작성:

This absolutely did not get massacred.

Losing one spectre won't hurt very much at all. I played it in 3.8 and by accident I didn't notice that I never maxed my spectre's out until like a week after I was farming endgame content. When I got the last spectre out I noticed literally no difference in clear speed.

The nerf to zombies is the biggest nerf to this build in 3.9. QOL/clear speed nerf due to the minions being slower sucks too and will be annoying but not build-breaking by any means.

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IchiMorghulis 님이 작성:

Same here, on learning of the Spectre nerf, I fired up a t16 and ran it with 3 Spectres. I cannot tell the difference. The move speed may slow us down a little but you can make up for most of it with minion move speed on your jewelry.

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Kirian42 님이 작성:

Cool, it seems like losing a Spectre isn't too bad then.

If we go with Host Chieftain/Carnage Chieftain for charges and drop Victario's and Necro Aegis... would Queen's Decree/Escape (to make up for lost minion speed) or Femurs of the Saints (for the +2 level, so we have the 2 Chieftains and still 2 Frost Sentinels) be things to consider? Since multicraft is kinda dead, and we're not getting bonus links from affixes any longer, it seems like a unique might be the way to go.

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Hercanic 님이 작성:

I could have sworn I remember seeing Death Bishops and other variations had a 10sec cooldown on casting their curse, but I'm not finding it on PoeDB anymore, so I'll have to test to verify.

The nice thing about the Death Bishop, though, is his curse offers 20% chance to freeze, which is more than the 14% of a L20 Frostbite (10% @L5).

Since your Animated Guardian already curses with Elemental Weakness, you'll just be replacing each other's curses if you try to use Frostbite as well. To apply two curses from separate sources, the Animated Guardian would need a chest with "additional curse" crafted, and you'd also need a source of +1 curse if using the CoH ring. The game uses the curse limit of whoever curses last, so you both need to have a limit of 2 to avoid overwriting each other. You might be able to make it work with only +1 curse on the AG if you curse and then hold off, allowing the AG to be the last to have cursed and therefore using his limit. The Death Bishop would be no good, since there's currently no way to increase its curse limit (NA could do it if we ever get a +1 curse shield, or Umbilicus Immortalis if we ever get a +1 curse flask).

Nice, looks good! Only thing missing was quality on the helmet for a tiny bit more ES and regen. =o)

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Dashbb 님이 작성:

Before I got the AG I was going to anoint whispers of doom and use triad grip with CoH alongside the ring but I never got around to it.

Also, I don't know how reliable the CoH from the AG actually is and I know I don't always have my own curse up. I figured if I was throwing money at the AG items I might as well get CoH Gloves too. Both curses should give around the same amount of -cold res & the only difference being the chance to freeze from frostbite. I guess now losing the extra Spectre, Death Bishop really isn't a good choice anyway.

Just to add on to the AG part, I don't think I ever saw his health go down at all so as it turns out, regening over half his hp bar per second is pretty effective at keeping him alive.

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Hercanic 님이 작성:

Good to know. Would it trouble you to ask if you could record clearing a high-end map?

Unfortunately, I have not been able to test it myself (my fault; I still have not gotten back to those, such as yourself, who offered donations). My prediction for clear speed is that without true ranged minions, the build will suffer to some extent when encountering pits and cliffs.

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Dashbb 님이 작성:

If you want to use it then go for it!

All my gear is in a stash tab somewhere & I wasn't planning on playing PoE again until next league. I'd be happy to jump on and pass it all over to you if you wanted though.