[3.21] 🌿Ultimate Claw Poison Pathfinder - Untouchable Viper - Molten Strike update by FEL

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BzyxXx 님이 작성:

If I good remember, PoB will update with ne gems after launch each league :/

Hope not but Melee versions are practically unchanged, Cobra Lash too.

Venom Gyre will have to wait for gem update and new claws.

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mrwiggiiles 님이 작성:

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TorsteinTheFallen 님이 작성:

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dirtybird2085 님이 작성:

I'm curious to see how well deadeye would be for this. Venom Gyre with the new ricochet and 2 extra projectiles + the wind nodes.

For Deadeye definitely Cobra Lash because Deadeye doesn't have the chaining anymore.

If you're recommending Deadeye for Cobra Lash will you include a possible POB? Was really looking forward to the Pathfinder fun.

Yeah but not for poison because Deadeye doesn't scale poison or chaos.

Deadeye would much benefit form Cobra Lash chaining an new bonus from remaining chain since it only applies to projectile damage and not poison.
It should be build by stacking either phys or elemental damage.

VG could be also built this way, but i think Cobra Lash will have better clear because of chains.

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Inviz1 님이 작성:

Cobra lash and venom gyre received some good buffs, would yo still recommend pestilence strike as a go to option or is one among cl and vg now taking the throne for the best all round?

Yeah, it's my preference. Viper is pretty much neck and neck with Pestilent, even better defensively with splash and higher single target dps but requires gem swaps.
Some prefer Viper, some Pestilent. In general melee skills have more damage.

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xchrisx8 님이 작성:

Holy fuck i'm hype for this build , Pob was updated , PF waiting Room Pog, ty so much Torstein and Vennto.

Hypeee! xD

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Optaka 님이 작성:

Trying to decide between cobra lash and toxic rain for league starter. Made a pro/con list but maybe someone can spot something I’m missing

Toxic rain pros
Slowing everything with hinder (this will be huge QOL)
Higher single target than cobra lash
Able to pre-stack damage
Mirage archer-can run around while still applying stacks
Cheaper weapon in toxic rain
Damage projection less useful this league from small arenas
Pathfinder has nearly infinite sustain from flasks anyway so “gain on hit” isn’t as needed

Cobra lash pros
Better damage projection-can offscreen instead of ground target
Faster clear speed due to projection, chaining, and poison prolif
Plague bearer-even more clear speed
Life/mana gain on hit is real nice-frees up flask slot(s)
More flexibility in gearing (don’t have to go quill rain and carcass jack)
Increased gear flexibility may benefit more from harvest crafts?

Overall it looks to me like the big difference is cobra lash will be better for zoom zoom clear and TR better for bossing, right? Anything I’m missing?

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Pretty much what you've said.

dam, maybe I should try a melee build again. Tbh I tried it at the beginning of Delirium and it was a mess....but so was that entire league. Guess that mean Pestilent Strike or Viper Strike.

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mrwiggiiles 님이 작성:

dam, maybe I should try a melee build again. Tbh I tried it at the beginning of Delirium and it was a mess....but so was that entire league.

Go with base version of this build and when you accumulate currency start upgrading to Transcendence version. This is probably the last time this Transcendence char will be this strong and it's bonkers good but requires rly good gear. Much of it will be quite easier to get with Harvest now.

Don't want to push you into melee if you are not fond of that playstyle. Do what's most suited to you.

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TorsteinTheFallen 님이 작성:

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mrwiggiiles 님이 작성:

dam, maybe I should try a melee build again. Tbh I tried it at the beginning of Delirium and it was a mess....but so was that entire league.

Go with base version of this build and when you accumulate currency start upgrading to Transcendence version. This is probably the last time this Transcendence char will be this strong and it's bonkers good but requires rly good gear. Much of it will be quite easier to get with Harvest now.

Don't want to push you into melee if you are not fond of that playstyle. Do what's most suited to you.

Yeah I really love that version of the build. Which melee ability do you think will be best for 10 bosses =)

We had many discussions over it. I will be going Venom Gyre. In the end I am very convinced that all of the above gems will be able to clear everything.

I see Cobra Lash as the clearly worst of the 4 options, the others have different pros/cons that you could argue hours about. Best example:

As Thorstein stated I was doing 100% Deli with his gear to test tankyness. Pestilent Strike is just a different "feel". There u kill a single enemy and the poison proliferation annihilates the whole pack. Awakened Melee Spash is a different mechanic, you attack way more enemies at the same time, you don´t have nearly as good as a spread. The Single Target itself is stronger, you can´t kill bosses that easy in big groups though. If they stay as equal in power as they are right now I will always favour Viper Strike while Thorstein will always favour Pestilent. So which one is better? Not really to say, right?

In the end it really comes down to personal preference. I have not a single doubt in my mind that all of the gems will be able to clear 10 Bosses, since the ranged skills profit here as well from the spread/chain. People should worry more about what they want to play in terms of fun, rather than what is better.

Me: I´ll be going venom gyre, even if it is a bit weaker at some points.