[3.16] Coldslinger | Vortex | Creeping Frost | League Start | SSF | CI/LL

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LesserForms 님이 작성:

Hey Clyde,.
Im probably gonna league start with your build.
I see the benefits of malediction, but why on earth would you drop profane bloom and say goodbye to the 40% chance to get explode? have I failed to see something here? IS it because you presuppose an explody chest?

Can you enlighten me? :)

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finiarel 님이 작성:

Please not a manual cast curse :(
I love this build because it is "mono action".

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Clydehart 님이 작성:

Sorry for the late responses, I am not all that active towards the tail-end of leagues. However, during league-start week, I'm pretty active and will be answering questions daily and updating the build right after the new Skill Tree/gem information is out.

TLDR so far: huge buff to the build in terms of survivability, but the dps is about the same. You can now drop Profane Bloom and grab Malediction (Enemies deal 10% reduced damage and take 10% increased damage + 15% curse effect), which allows you to run a second curse. I'll be working through the best way to incorporate everything over the next few days with a full build update planned by the end of Wednesday (EST).

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FluxAureo 님이 작성:

Maybe it was brought up before but I think the new Elementalist is a strong contender versus Occultist for this build, as you gain Reflect Immunity, Mana Regen and even further reduced frost resistance via Frost Exposure.

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FluxAureo 님이 작성:

as you gain Reflect Immunity

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BOOMJudge 님이 작성:

After reading the recent changes, I think we can play this build again as it is.
The 25 Cold DoT multi, is sad. But not unplayable.

Or did I miss something.
(Talking about LL End-Game)

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DaMeeps 님이 작성:

Can I use Power Siphon instead of Frenzy without hurting the build much? (I prefer the MTX lol, also culling strike is nice)

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Clydehart 님이 작성:

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LesserForms 님이 작성:

Hey Clyde,.
Im probably gonna league start with your build.
I see the benefits of malediction, but why on earth would you drop profane bloom and say goodbye to the 40% chance to get explode? have I failed to see something here? IS it because you presuppose an explody chest?

Can you enlighten me? :)

Profane Bloom makes the build feel amazing, but not necessary overall to feel good. I think the build really needs a bit more tankiness to feel better. With this said though, Profane Bloom could be S-tier during the 10 boss challenge(s) if you can stack bosses together. If you kill ~2-3 of them, you're pretty much guaranteed to end up killing all of them from "chaining" Profane Blooms pops.

Malediction will be great for league-start and CI builds, but not so great for end-game LL builds. If you're going to push the build to LL end-game, you're probably better off picking up an Awakened Hextouch and opting for Profane Bloom. This assumes that you grabbing Withering Presence for +60% chaos resistance, which you could entirely drop and just get both!

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finiarel 님이 작성:

Please not a manual cast curse :(
I love this build because it is "mono action".

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Clydehart 님이 작성:

Sorry for the late responses, I am not all that active towards the tail-end of leagues. However, during league-start week, I'm pretty active and will be answering questions daily and updating the build right after the new Skill Tree/gem information is out.

TLDR so far: huge buff to the build in terms of survivability, but the dps is about the same. You can now drop Profane Bloom and grab Malediction (Enemies deal 10% reduced damage and take 10% increased damage + 15% curse effect), which allows you to run a second curse. I'll be working through the best way to incorporate everything over the next few days with a full build update planned by the end of Wednesday (EST).

No worries, there won't be manual cursing. It'll probably rely on Power Siphon + Hextouch + Frostbite + Enfeeble.

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FluxAureo 님이 작성:

Maybe it was brought up before but I think the new Elementalist is a strong contender versus Occultist for this build, as you gain Reflect Immunity, Mana Regen and even further reduced frost resistance via Frost Exposure.

Elementalist will be a good alternative, but there are some issues/things to work through. It's a toss-up on the best Ascendancy nodes- you could use any of them and feel pretty good. If I had to guess: Shaper of Winter -> Liege of the Primordial (Flame Golem + Chaos Golem + Stone Golem) -> Mastermind of Discord -> Heart of Destruction.

As an Elementalist, you don't have stun immunity, which forces you to deal with the stuns as CI or go LL with Chayula's. This can be a problem on league-start since you have to go CI until you build enough currency for LL. Also, you don't have the free +1 curse and 10% reduced damage taken from Malediction. This can be offset with Awakened Hextouch support or the +1 curse near CI though.

With golems, gem sockets are in scarce supply- so fitting in 3 Golems will be tough.

Elementalist will have far less damage than Occultist while mapping/in packs since Cold exposure is not consistent with packs and you won't have Heart of Destruction active.

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Clydehart 님이 작성:

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DaMeeps 님이 작성:

Can I use Power Siphon instead of Frenzy without hurting the build much? (I prefer the MTX lol, also culling strike is nice)

Yeah, you're actually in luck- the 3.13 version is going to be using Power Siphon instead of Frenzy now anyways!