[3.11] 30M+ dps COC Penance Brand Necromancer (All content viable except Atziri)

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Pyrestead 님이 작성:

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There's a certain focus on global crit mods: quiver, 100% inc crit chance from consecrated ground, inspiration, power charges, plus flat additive crit from body armour and bottled faith. Add all of those up and it's possible to get around 70%+ crit chance with barrage. But top priority for any CoC build is generally accuracy first, then crit, then attack speed but to the point of just of to the breakpoint.

chance to hit/evasive monster are 92% and 86% is it necessary to push to 100%? I havent really played coc builds before.

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Pyrestead 님이 작성:

Hey, I have a couple more questions. I tried to contact you ingame but you were offline.

I got a timeless jewel with just 9 seed value different from yours. I'm guessing i got the right node which is over leech and applying to ES too(Immortal Ambition). I'd like to know the two other nodes being affected, as I'm getting chaos damage%(Revitalizing Darkness) and +7 life on block and +5% block chance (Blood Quenched bulwark)
My question is are these nodes needed and are the nodes I'm getting correct

My other question is how do you get that much crit chance on barrage/ROA,(or does roa/barrage crit chance dont matter? im guessing it needs to crit to proc the brand skill right?) i don't see any crit chance mods on gear or tree(apart from spike point quiver)
I can post my POB here if you'd like to have a quick look. Build is still in the process missing some gears. https://pastebin.com/J8mn66sX

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Butsicles 님이 작성:

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Butsicles 님이 작성:

Ele focus is definitely possible, but penance brand hits so hard you essentially get shock cap versus sirus with good enough gear (15% vs 50% increased damage taken). At the high end it's definitely not desired but at the lower end ele focus should be fine.

I've put a slightly ghetto version of a spellslinger version (w/o Poet's pen). Poet's pen is super tricky to work around since you actually don't want two (it screws up with reaching spell/cast speed cap because of the way spells proc on poets, where it alternates per weapon per attack), and one poet's pen is quite a bit worse than just having a decent wand, and putting both desecrate and vd on spellslinger.

It's slower than Spellslinger/Poet's Pen or CoC, but what about just having Trigger Socketed Spells on Skill use for the rare wand to stick Desecrate+VD in? Probably too slow due to the internal cooldown of 4sec. I'm sticking with PP's for stuff like WoC, Curse, VD+Des but will probably replace one of them for a rare trigger wand to stick WoC+Curse+Offering later on.

The main issue with going CoC is getting enough accuracy in doing so. Attack speed and crit should still be easier to obtain. I ran a mess of an assassin last league with dual PP+Spellslinger+CoC Bladefall Bladeblast Avatar of Fire char, he was squishy but did red maps decently well. It's just balancing out his stats like getting enough attack speed, accuracy, and even weapon crit for CoC was a huge pain in the ass due to itemization and lack of harvest crafting back in Delirium league.

Looking through your rough/scuffed PoB for spellslinger version, there's no Bone Offering either meaning that character is basically running at 50/16 block at best case situation. Nowhere to put it either lowering the chance of survivability/EHP by not hitting cap, and putting it in spellslinger setup won't work since that can't be feasible without sacrificing something else(VD maybe?) due to mana and reservation. But turning the rare wand to have trigger and sticking Offering+WoC+Curse(probably in that order) would solve some issues. I think dual wands is probably best overall option (whether dual rare wands or one PP+Rare wand) for a spellslinger variant.

Thanks for catching that. I thought I put the generic VD/DD combo of bone offering/wave/conductivity in the wand with trigger but I must have screwed up somewhere.

I definitely think dual wand or wand/shield is dependent on how offensive you want to be (since you can get close to block cap regardless of either method), it's just that shield gives you a bit of life, and possibly some interesting influence mods you could use (e.g. inc damage per block, life on block, etc.)

However I'm still not quite convinced on poet's pen being decent on dw, since you're attacking with poet's pen once every two attacks, so linking two spells on a poet's pen while dual wielding wands will cause each spell to trigger every two attacks each (making it really difficult to reach the attack cast speed limit, if those two spells are desecrate + vd). And in terms of casting utility spells, trigger socketed has a low enough cd (4s) that a rare wand suffices as the triggering mechanism.

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Butsicles 님이 작성:

Hi Pyrestead,

I checked your profile and have a few suggestions:

1. I would swap out steelskin for immortal call (as high a level as possible), since steelskin runs out only after a pretty measly amount of mitigation, while the increased skill effect duration synergizes a bit more with immortal call which is just percent mitigation throughout the entire effect.

2. You get leech through the doryani's lesson notable on the lightning large cluster jewel (you'll need one). The ahuana keystone immortal ambition causes any life leech effects to apply to your energy shield once on full life, so this life leech essentially causes your es pool to become part of your life pool. This makes it so your total pool will probably go over 6k at some point.

3. If you're running rain of arrows while mapping, I would strongly suggest either self cast bone offering, or leave it in a CWDT at a slightly lower level. I did that while leveling to 94 and it worked pretty great if you dont like pressing any additional buttons. Having bone offering in the helmet screws up with the corpse rotation for rain of arrows specifically (barrage doesn't have this issue), so having it elsehwere feels quite a bit better.

You seem to be running flesh and stone already so hopefully that helps a bit also. I do think that the build needs levels to scale hp so hopefully by 90-91 your ehp should be fairly comfortable. You should be able to run 100% delirium maps somewhat comfortably at that point.