So i'm a bit confused with this build as it stands so far... My friend and i are running it and we had very little issues with Normal and Cruel <short of the Act 4 bosses which wernt really ALL THAT BAD>... However now that we're in merciless and we're doing act 4, the bosses are flat out impossible without draining an entire experiance bar to do it. Which whatever, that's fine... except we're also having these issues with the map bosses, the level 68 map bosses. We did this build in Torment league and we had no issues at all following it back then, level 89 did all content no problems.
The only thing i can think about right now that we might be short on, is life. I don't have lightning resist maxed right now... but i wouldn't question anything if i died to that.
Right now our DPS with our frenzy charges for Tornado shot is about 5,700 <edit my damage was wrong>
I only have 2163 life right now but admitadly, we're being one or two shot by things increadibly fast right now.
Chance to evade attacks 41% chance to dodge attacks 40% chance to dodge spells 30%.
How is it we would be able to survive these bosses without kiting them and killing them at a rate so slow that i'd rather just stop playing?
I know we have to be missing something, it might be really damn obvious i hope we don't get a reply saying "get more life" because that's just not sustainable on some bosses... not all bosses allow you to replenish your health pots with mobs, or at least the arena guy doesnt. Getting pots that refill on crit of course being a solution to that, of which i have 1 but even with a crit level of about 40%, it's not filling enough.
Anyways, any suggestions are welcome...
Oh right i also wanted to ask what our protection against reflect is, now that the dodge projectiles node is no longer viable?
Rule number 1 in Path of Exile. Defense over Offense!
So, cap your resists (chaos res not required), and get at least 4k life. I even recommend >4.5k life and Vaal Pact for better survivability. Content difficulty has been cranked up in The Awakening, so you're going to need it.
Warlords is no good for boss you wont always have trash to kill for endurance charges already tested you lose immortal call when you need it most for big spike boss damage trash leeching is fine with the way you leech from multiple sources now in 2.0.
Personally going to drop 4 points from like frenzy charges to grab Vaal pact, leech is just way to slow to start sometimes between taking both leech clusters and a flask i cant maintain my hp against incoming boss damage sometimes so I'll move 3 leech and a frenzy charge i guess to grab Vaal pact and see if its a better solution, dps is so high anyway i dont think 2 frenzy charges will slow me down. If that dont work I'll have to sell my body for some acuity...
If anyone can map a better skill path to grab Vaal pact without losing 4 points would be great.
You only need 3 points to grab VP. Start from the 2 nodes that give 30 INT + 30 STR, that's a shorter path, and saves you 1 point. See my tree for reference.
So i'm a bit confused with this build as it stands so far... My friend and i are running it and we had very little issues with Normal and Cruel <short of the Act 4 bosses which wernt really ALL THAT BAD>... However now that we're in merciless and we're doing act 4, the bosses are flat out impossible without draining an entire experiance bar to do it. Which whatever, that's fine... except we're also having these issues with the map bosses, the level 68 map bosses. We did this build in Torment league and we had no issues at all following it back then, level 89 did all content no problems.
The only thing i can think about right now that we might be short on, is life. I don't have lightning resist maxed right now... but i wouldn't question anything if i died to that.
Right now our DPS with our frenzy charges for Tornado shot is about 5,700 <edit my damage was wrong>
I only have 2163 life right now but admitadly, we're being one or two shot by things increadibly fast right now.
Chance to evade attacks 41% chance to dodge attacks 40% chance to dodge spells 30%.
How is it we would be able to survive these bosses without kiting them and killing them at a rate so slow that i'd rather just stop playing?
I know we have to be missing something, it might be really damn obvious i hope we don't get a reply saying "get more life" because that's just not sustainable on some bosses... not all bosses allow you to replenish your health pots with mobs, or at least the arena guy doesnt. Getting pots that refill on crit of course being a solution to that, of which i have 1 but even with a crit level of about 40%, it's not filling enough.
Anyways, any suggestions are welcome...
Oh right i also wanted to ask what our protection against reflect is, now that the dodge projectiles node is no longer viable?
In the current iteration of PoE having anything less than 3500 HP (and that's still VERY low) and capped resists will get you killed in maps. The game got harder for all builds. Physical spikes are very normal now. The bright side is that you can also stack up a lot more damage yourself, without heavy investment into uniques.
Get into the habit of using Evasion gear with HP / resists. I know several players, who play this build right now in new leagues and are doing very VERY fine.
Reflect is a tricky thing. Luckily enough it's way weaker than before. Usually throwing in a jade flask and having some leech on attacks solves the problems. I also recommend running a manual cast enduring cry and a CWDT setup. It'll help you so much.
Please don't PM me ingame with filter/guide questions, post them on the forum, after reading the FAQ.
NeverSink#3349 님이 2015. 7. 15. 오전 5:30:21에 마지막으로 편집
Hey I started your build in the new SC league, i got a little rusty since i havnt played for couple of months, do you think you could give me some infos because i feel your build is semi outdated
1) Gem Setup for Tornadoshot 4L 5L 6L: At the moment i use physprojdamage, faster attacks, critmulti (ony have 4Link atm)
2) Gem Setup for Single Target Frenzy or Puncture? and complete Setup for 4L 5L 6L
3) Golem (havnt played with one yet suggest ice golem is the right choice)
4) Vaal Pact, I feel like its so close to the route its a must take ? (except if you have acuities)
5) Is Abyssus an Option? The Damage should really explode i guess
Since you havnt really posted something on a lot of pages i hope you red this and will give me some help (or any very experienced player with this build)
Its my first bow build i am usually more the dagger guy ;)
1) I think you can stik to the suggested order shown on Page 1. You NEED to have GMP in your 4L! That will greatly increase your damage output due to the shotgunning of the second projectiles (yes, they still shotgun. Though technically it's not called shotgunning).
2) See page 1. General rule ( for atziri you want to get max phys dps, whilst for other content you can max dps using e.g. the PhystoLightning+WED combo)
3. Ice Golem
4. I think it's a must take, and use it myself. I even use Life Leech gem a my 6th link in TS setup. Helps a TON with survivability. Content difficulty has been cranked up a bit.
5. Actually Abyssus is a very bad option because the crit multi only applies to melee damage. Rat's nest will give you a better damage boost, while also increasing your survivability.
Hope this helps.
thanks alot also valy thought it doesnt shotgun anymore so i thought stuff would change a bit, also was confused about wed/phys to l because i felt this was a pretty much phys oriented build (also since leech went down so much you wont leech as much?)
and abyssus was stupid of me lol always played some high phys crit chars melee ofc ;)
demogorg#7585 님이 2015. 7. 15. 오전 6:01:26에 마지막으로 편집
Hey I started your build in the new SC league, i got a little rusty since i havnt played for couple of months, do you think you could give me some infos because i feel your build is semi outdated
1) Gem Setup for Tornadoshot 4L 5L 6L: At the moment i use physprojdamage, faster attacks, critmulti (ony have 4Link atm)
2) Gem Setup for Single Target Frenzy or Puncture? and complete Setup for 4L 5L 6L
3) Golem (havnt played with one yet suggest ice golem is the right choice)
4) Vaal Pact, I feel like its so close to the route its a must take ? (except if you have acuities)
5) Is Abyssus an Option? The Damage should really explode i guess
Since you havnt really posted something on a lot of pages i hope you red this and will give me some help (or any very experienced player with this build)
Its my first bow build i am usually more the dagger guy ;)
1) I think you can stik to the suggested order shown on Page 1. You NEED to have GMP in your 4L! That will greatly increase your damage output due to the shotgunning of the second projectiles (yes, they still shotgun. Though technically it's not called shotgunning).
2) See page 1. General rule ( for atziri you want to get max phys dps, whilst for other content you can max dps using e.g. the PhystoLightning+WED combo)
3. Ice Golem
4. I think it's a must take, and use it myself. I even use Life Leech gem a my 6th link in TS setup. Helps a TON with survivability. Content difficulty has been cranked up a bit.
5. Actually Abyssus is a very bad option because the crit multi only applies to melee damage. Rat's nest will give you a better damage boost, while also increasing your survivability.
Hope this helps.
thanks alot also valy thought it doesnt shotgun anymore so i thought stuff would change a bit, also was confused about wed/phys to l because i felt this was a pretty much phys oriented build (also since leech went down so much you wont leech as much?)
and abyssus was stupid of me lol always played some high phys crit chars melee ofc ;)
Back in 1.3 the Increased Crit Damage gem got nerfed hard, so going full phys is no longer as viable as it used to be. The PtL+WED combo not only increases your tooltip dps, but also actual dps because of the shock effect.
As far as leeching less, that actually depends quite a few factors, such as the amount of damage you're dealing, your max mana/life pool, and increased leech rate from gear/passives. All I can say here is that you have to try and see how it works in your situation. I've got 1.2% mana leech in total, and don't have any problems sustaining it. Same goes for life leech, though I'm using Vaal Pact, and Life Leech gem as my 6th link in my TS setup.
I'm wondering if I still should be using Drillneck (as I don't see it being used so often) or switch to rare quiver and replace pierce gem with WED (or whatever).
lol, equiping lvl 1 WED increased my dmg by nearly 7k (equiping rare quiver gives ~1k tooltip dmg + ~110hp)
Is there any particular reason why Rat's Nest and Maligaros Gloves are kind of expensive right know? Both items go for 4ex+ and while its early in the league, i cant remember these items to be that expensive before.
Did GGG change their rarity or smth?
Is there any particular reason why Rat's Nest and Maligaros Gloves are kind of expensive right know? Both items go for 4ex+ and while its early in the league, i cant remember these items to be that expensive before.
Did GGG change their rarity or smth?
According to this thread https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1152638/page/1
the rarity tier of mali's and rat's nest is still the same.
I think most of the sellers are just greedy and try to make profit early in the league tbh. I would never pay 3ex+ for one of these uniques. I would rather buy a new bow.
