[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

25k is not silly, 75k split chain surely is!
After a certain point it's a combination of every piece of gear that adds up.
A good pdps bow is a nice way to start though.
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Afasia 님이 작성:
Also when people post silly amount of tooltip damage like 25k is it mainly from quality gems or am I missing something?


I'm at about 13k(HOA,Hatred running) myself but with ice golem, blood rage and all frenzy charges up it goes over 20k, 25 does not seem unavailable to me considering my bow is incomplete and I'm missing rats nest and maligaros, I only have 2 20Q gems, which I found, WED and Tornado shot. I'm at lvl 87

my DPS relevant gear;
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Drahnier123#3070 님이 2015. 9. 9. 오후 7:38:46에 마지막으로 편집
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AllSunsDawn 님이 작성:
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evenson 님이 작성:
Is it possible for you guys to look at my ranger? I don't know where to go with gear, having a really tough time getting enough STR/INT to use all the skill setups. Someone give me some advice...


tfw your character tab is Private ^^



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Its open now, Didn't know that was a thing.
Can someone please take a look at my tree/gear and tell me what I am doing wrong? Only around 3,700hp, 6250 evasion, and my dps with just auras is 15,500

Gear
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Tree
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https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgYAotmw2P-TsJJR2Ra_YeImlYw2VUsfQQMetUgGI3BSKgvz6m1sNj1sjJ2qYqybJujW53TPerIZMgF6U2HrBbU6Qkt43agwcdQjjb9RR__eJP3nVKbgfwIylNnGlQXKqV1omvEIiTB8_h3BScjcTZIj9o19Mfp29znUfyugn-HboaQF-dwVp9T-yMSifXX-urvj034Km-cK73p46_zFDY3jn4d2Sn1br8Ezhs4hdkMxTP9OKupizZiNfnXLvqe9NmVNR37awQUtdO167w==
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Phizeek 님이 작성:
Can someone please take a look at my tree/gear and tell me what I am doing wrong? Only around 3,700hp, 6250 evasion, and my dps with just auras is 15,500

Gear
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Tree
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https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgYAotmw2P-TsJJR2Ra_YeImlYw2VUsfQQMetUgGI3BSKgvz6m1sNj1sjJ2qYqybJujW53TPerIZMgF6U2HrBbU6Qkt43agwcdQjjb9RR__eJP3nVKbgfwIylNnGlQXKqV1omvEIiTB8_h3BScjcTZIj9o19Mfp29znUfyugn-HboaQF-dwVp9T-yMSifXX-urvj034Km-cK73p46_zFDY3jn4d2Sn1br8Ezhs4hdkMxTP9OKupizZiNfnXLvqe9NmVNR37awQUtdO167w==


You need to swap that Dual res ring with a Diamond one. Also, you can lose those Atziri's Step and get rare ones with Life/Res/MS. This will allow you to have more flexibility on your gear.

Also, respec those nodes at the shadow start. Get the Phys Damage instead. You will hit harder. 12 IAS isn't THAT much, you have Blood Rage. Over the next levels pick up the Ranger life nodes at the start. You will get to 4kish hp.

Also, gem levels. 20/20 gems make a HUGE difference. About 5-10k depending on your gear. Just keep playing and leveling them. 21/20 Tornado Shot/Split Arrow is a big upgrade if you got nothing else to upgrade too. That's just endgame luxury though. Try to get a 350+ pDPS bow with 1.3 Attackspeed and decent critical chance.

Good luck. :)
returnofsnow#5524 님이 2015. 9. 10. 오전 11:15:45에 마지막으로 편집
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Phizeek 님이 작성:
Can someone please take a look at my tree/gear and tell me what I am doing wrong? Only around 3,700hp, 6250 evasion, and my dps with just auras is 15,500

Gear
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Tree
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https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgYAotmw2P-TsJJR2Ra_YeImlYw2VUsfQQMetUgGI3BSKgvz6m1sNj1sjJ2qYqybJujW53TPerIZMgF6U2HrBbU6Qkt43agwcdQjjb9RR__eJP3nVKbgfwIylNnGlQXKqV1omvEIiTB8_h3BScjcTZIj9o19Mfp29znUfyugn-HboaQF-dwVp9T-yMSifXX-urvj034Km-cK73p46_zFDY3jn4d2Sn1br8Ezhs4hdkMxTP9OKupizZiNfnXLvqe9NmVNR37awQUtdO167w==

Why do you think that you do something wrong?

I guess you are at around level ~80 with 101 points specced? 15k dps at that level is great. You will gain more dps with your gem levels an passives (6 crit nodes + accuracy left on your tree). 3,7k life is ok too. Getting alot of life with this build is not that easy because we use so many items with no life at all. You should look out for better gear with 70+ life rolls when you progress in the future.

Other than that I have to disagree with the post above me. I would not spec into the 3x10% phys damage nodes instead of the attack speed ones in the shadow starting area. Late game it's better to have more attack speed and 12% attack speed will have more impact on your clear speed than 30% additional phys damage.
dEus__#4586 님이 2015. 9. 10. 오후 2:47:33에 마지막으로 편집
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dEus__ 님이 작성:

Other than that I have to disagree with the post above me. I would not spec into the 3x10% phys damage nodes instead of the attack speed ones in the shadow starting area. Late game it's better to have more attack speed and 12% attack speed will have more impact on your clear speed than 30% additional phys damage.



I'll just leave this here.

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好的男 님이 작성:
Also the most budget bow players will use a Rat's Nest which is allready providing additional attackspeed. stacking it to far will result in big mana issues. we also talking about the single target attack. point blank is nice against reflect, it does less dmg if u are far away from the target aswell. if u face a boss where u just cant get close then u should ofc switch that support for a more range effective one. but game mechanics really? more attacks > more mana > with low gear/dmg == not enough leech.
path of aps is gone, dont get blinded by stupid tooltips, u will need good hit damage to sustain ur leechrates, and that the plan behind picking up your support gems. attackspeed is fine, get it on jewels if u can, the tree also provides it, so does bloodrage/frenzy charges.


Nuff said. 30% damage is way better than 12% IAS anytime. I like my 200k+ Frenzy tooltip with FA too, but that's only like 1/3-4 shots because I am out of mana everytime. If you don't have a really good bow, Physical damage is way more beneficial. It actually adds to your damage and leech.

Just my 2 cents.
Hey guys! So I've been following this build , lvl 80 and am absolutely loving it so far! Got 2 quick questions though that I need answering.

1. Regarding auras whats best to run, HoA/Hatred(currently using) or HoI/Hatred?

2. About single target skill, I saw a previous post in this thread that said we don't really need a single target skill if using TS. Is this optimal? I've been currently using Puncture so far but I don't know if I should stick with it or swap to Frenzy.
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returnofsnow 님이 작성:


Nuff said. 30% damage is way better than 12% IAS anytime. I like my 200k+ Frenzy tooltip with FA too, but that's only like 1/3-4 shots because I am out of mana everytime. If you don't have a really good bow, Physical damage is way more beneficial. It actually adds to your damage and leech.

Just my 2 cents.


Actually, you should get nether physical damage nor Attack speed nodes from Shadow's starting - all those are suboptimal... I dont recommend starting as a Shafow for physical bow build.
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returnofsnow 님이 작성:
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dEus__ 님이 작성:

Other than that I have to disagree with the post above me. I would not spec into the 3x10% phys damage nodes instead of the attack speed ones in the shadow starting area. Late game it's better to have more attack speed and 12% attack speed will have more impact on your clear speed than 30% additional phys damage.



I'll just leave this here.

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好的男 님이 작성:
Also the most budget bow players will use a Rat's Nest which is allready providing additional attackspeed. stacking it to far will result in big mana issues. we also talking about the single target attack. point blank is nice against reflect, it does less dmg if u are far away from the target aswell. if u face a boss where u just cant get close then u should ofc switch that support for a more range effective one. but game mechanics really? more attacks > more mana > with low gear/dmg == not enough leech.
path of aps is gone, dont get blinded by stupid tooltips, u will need good hit damage to sustain ur leechrates, and that the plan behind picking up your support gems. attackspeed is fine, get it on jewels if u can, the tree also provides it, so does bloodrage/frenzy charges.


Nuff said. 30% damage is way better than 12% IAS anytime. I like my 200k+ Frenzy tooltip with FA too, but that's only like 1/3-4 shots because I am out of mana everytime. If you don't have a really good bow, Physical damage is way more beneficial. It actually adds to your damage and leech.

Just my 2 cents.

Well single target dps is complete garbage in 2.0 no matter how fast you attack. On the other hand leech from AOE attacks is easy to sustain if you have the new leech cluster on the tree. The 3x10% phys nodes are wasted because they have almost no impact if you already have 250+% phys dmg on the tree. I cba about tooltip dps but more attack speed just feels way better for clearing packs.

But yeah no matter how you look at it, shadow start is just suboptimal for bow builds in 2.0 because you just need every single life node you can get.

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