[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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Zalamera 님이 작성:
Hi all,

I started playing this game like 5-6 months ago and by then Tornado shot was the real thing, i always wanted to play the build but i never believed i will survive because i was pretty new and i play always hardcore.

So i instead play Lame totem or incinerate or that kind of semi boring staff ( i hate totems now).

Now i am a little bit more experienced and i want to try an evasion build, and since i always wanted to try tornado shot i though... ok is time to ascend with TS!

I have checked the guide and i like a lot the defensive tree with 205% life and phase acro, but since ascendancy change things and you can go duelist fortify i dont know if it is better to adjust that tree to duelist and play like that.
The issue is that i feel like our early game if we start on duelist is terrible, is my feeling true?

ALso when we talk about auras, i find difficult to decide between grace of hatred, sometimes sruvive is a matter of killing fast instead of been tanky, so even if is hardcore and i am still learning the game... will hatred be better?



Did you recommend me a different class?


I am also a little bit concern about the fact than on some previous pages people were telling that they get a lot of times one shotted... since i want to face ascendancy hardcore... is this TS build viable or shall i change my mind?

Also since i am still a newb and dont know very well the market i have some concerns aboout gearing up. On previous messages i find that some poster have issue with their DPS when they reach tier 5-6 maps and onwards... is gear hard to get for this build? sall i change to a more affordable build? shall i kneel to the boredom of caustic arrow?

Sorry for the wall of text, like all of you im super hyped and really want to play TS, I want this to be my first 100 char.

PD_ ALso i will be no lifing weekend and monday so if someone feels like giving me advice during the league that would be awesome.

If i end up going ts i will try to share my progress with you.
Thanks to all the posters they really helped me :)


My plan for a lvl 91 setup for softcore - (hp,passive, passive)
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAm40ILu2DGY4AXtN-73p9de4O_rqjivzFu-Mj9g2NxKJNko19W6-HdqfUMHyQCiF2Tirjn_7IfytRR4bOTP8j00p9oaQ51JUF51Q31I2_wTNDMY9g4dt299nGCIkk_e0_BbXUI9rBjX4GIzH6MpSa8f_ewuwwcXTtLlO3tnsUoJ9_Al1otMUqW92oBS3Tb3XLpuDKqWKsefZLeHrv6mK-p2yMQzY6QmVNnapS7L02Nj1HfutjhNm1SBEvAdzUQnfjhG-pbnX9wBoWv3gNbzsmlbXyYeI1klVL_o_YvYw2idNwUg==


To make it safer you can always just take more nodes in the scion life wheel earlier and forfeit a bit of damage :)
Thank you im checking right now and i have some questions:

Did you use frenzy as a second skill to get charges and curse? I have tried to figure out bloodrage but we can only get 3.6% instead of 4% (if i am not mistaken) and i do not fel confortable if i cna not regen 100%.
Did you ever try blood rage?

WHich auras are your running? HAve u tried both hatred and grace? Wich one do you think is better?
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Zalamera 님이 작성:
Thank you im checking right now and i have some questions:

Did you use frenzy as a second skill to get charges and curse? I have tried to figure out bloodrage but we can only get 3.6% instead of 4% (if i am not mistaken) and i do not fel confortable if i cna not regen 100%.
Did you ever try blood rage?

WHich auras are your running? HAve u tried both hatred and grace? Wich one do you think is better?


I am in softcore so I run with Hatred. Only using Grace / Haste elemental reflect maps (also removing added fire gems and so on, so I deal 0 elemental damage).

Yes I use Blood Rage and Blast Rain as single target skill :) (There is a risk they will nerf Blast Rain though in which base I might switch to burning arrow).
Frankenberry#0590 님이 2016. 3. 2. 오후 3:21:46에 마지막으로 편집
Hi, I just bought a divination distillate in the windripper build and it doesnt seem to work. how do we keep the flask up when we do a map? do i really have to follow the passive skill tree? Thanks!
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YuriYongWonhiSaranghae 님이 작성:
Hi, I just bought a divination distillate in the windripper build and it doesnt seem to work. how do we keep the flask up when we do a map? do i really have to follow the passive skill tree? Thanks!


The flask only works while you are not on either full mana or life. Basically this is impossible with a windripper build which more or less requires Vaal Pact. Sell the flask again.

Do you really have to follow the passive skill tree? No of course not. If you think something suits your playstyle better go for it.

Edit: I am expressing myself unclear with the flask. The duration ends the second you hit both full life and mana.
Frankenberry#0590 님이 2016. 3. 2. 오후 3:49:29에 마지막으로 편집
Hi,

Just wondering what your suggestion would be for an Ascendancy Class?

This is the build that I am going to follow...stepping out of my comfort zone...I am mostly a Marauder/tank type player.

Thanks for the build and any advice!!
Talking from the perspective of a new league, what would be the best method to level this character. Fire Trap/Flame totem don't seem to do much damage. Would going Cleave/Dual strike and specing into the dual wield nodes near the start with quickstep and later respec out be a good idea?

Anyone have any suggestions as to how they plan to level their ranger in the upcoming league, would love to hear your views on this.
Decembertide#3834 님이 2016. 3. 2. 오후 4:22:40에 마지막으로 편집
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Dont_Blink 님이 작성:
Hi,

Just wondering what your suggestion would be for an Ascendancy Class?

This is the build that I am going to follow...stepping out of my comfort zone...I am mostly a Marauder/tank type player.

Thanks for the build and any advice!!


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NeverSink 님이 작성:
Expect a massive rework and update of the guide until wed. (Also a new Null's guide + filter update)

I'm busy doing the whole picture work and writing up new texts, but at least I seem to be done with the actual content/math.

The update will likely include a few videos for the guide (something I wanted for a long time)


Updating the guide is very complicated now though, I'M hitting the character limit in the first 2 posts and all the ascendancy classes need spaces. More pictures it is.


Seems like he's in the process of updating, which is cool, as I was in the process of trying to work out a build as well. I'm like you in that I played Marauder types, but wanted to finally try the OPness of a Ranger while being rewarded for skillful and tactical gameplay. Even if there is no large update, I think each Ascendancy Class offers either good utility, damage, or survivability, depending on your playstyle. For instance:

Want flat damage, Chain utility, or nice AoE bonus? Deadeye!
Want to supplement those charges, add to them, and increase survivability? Raider!
Want to diversify damage while increasing survivability and flask utility? Pathfinder!

Honestly, a lot of what I've seen in terms of Ascendancy classes for a lot of builds aren't about min-maxing or even what's particularly best (obviously SOME builds will favor something), especially since the age-old factor of doing 0 DPS when...you're dead :P.
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAR8Sip9T-yJcGu-P-un11m40ILtN-AF7tgxmOGYrDOpu1hMUkiw-rFr8mlWHiVUuMNonTcFJtbLVINj2dqlWFpctsjO967g5W-n8r1oo51Hb3MfqgnzB8jX0j9k2SUUfnVCT9_94-z73mN9TtP42_-uuS815F1CMwcd2oS3g6QpUF2cYylH8CpuAIiZrxXWjKqfzFDY2HduOfSn1bryF2hs7BM04qTP_WWI9gQzHDM1oav9VTu9rBdO0FLXrvLlPTb41-t7Z1y-pivqdlTb02R36hpOHbBiN7FJS4G62v62KsFyZ6hGuQEvHQrUHQ

This is the build im working with so far, any suggestions?
IGN: Lnvoker
So, barring any blast rain nerfs, is Tornado Shot + Blast rain with blood rage for frenzy charges the best general build?

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