[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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BlackYoshi7 님이 작성:

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Frankenberry 님이 작성:

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Cr4v3n 님이 작성:

So, before I could have one tree, and switch between TS and LA as needed.

Do you think this is still viable, since TS would be better with Deadeye and LA with Pathfinder?

Or is going LA/Deadeye also an option?

It is all perfectly viable. First obvious reason being Ascendancy classes are a flat out buff. If it worked just fine before the patch without an Ascendancy class there is no reason why it shouldn't work now. With the two examples you brought up Deadeye brings good abilities for an LA setup and Pathfinder likewise brings good options for a TS setup :)

Or you could switch between different setups within deadeye (chain ability is great for LA setup).

What about going raider for the frenzy part of the tree, eliminating the need for a frenzy charge setup except against bosses without adds

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BlackYoshi7 님이 작성:

With the poison gem nerf

The Poison support gem's mana multiplier has been increased from 125% to 135%. It now has 0.5% poison duration per quality (down from 1%). It has 0% increased Poison Damage at gem level 1 (down from 25%) and gains 2% per gem level (down from 5%).

It feels like the puncture trap setup needs to be torn down

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alexandrubenza 님이 작성:

@NeverSink, with the more damage added to pierce gem, are there changes to the main build you'd make? also, are you going to update guide/loot filter before or after patch? i plan on rushing the whole game and then coming back for ascendancies later, i was just curious when i should check back.

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Frankenberry 님이 작성:

Raider is also great =) You are not eliminating the need for frenzy generation with Raider. 10% is not reliable. Besides blood rage gives you leech and 20% attack speed :) Raider gives you even better frenzy charges and onslaught! That is a massive boost for clear speed which is great.

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NeverSink 님이 작성:

Updated the frontpage. It's not final, there will be some minor iterations and improvements!

If you guys have any suggestions/critique etc, please post it, I've been stalking up this thread in the past days, but the ascendancy class choices on page 1 are more or less what I think works best. Might make a video too.

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Assassin/Raider Scion looks tempting. Other option I'm considering is leveling as Deadeye/TS and switching to Raider/LA later on.

Hard to tell at work without the tree planner, but are the passive tree links updated?
Also, it would be awesome to have leveling trees for Scion. If not progressive trees, at least some notes on order of priorities :)

Appreciate all your hard work!

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Is puncture trap still the best single target complement to tornado shot or is frenzy/blast rain a better option

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NeverSink 님이 작성:

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Assassin/Raider Scion looks tempting. Other option I'm considering is leveling as Deadeye/TS and switching to Raider/LA later on.

Hard to tell at work without the tree planner, but are the passive tree links updated?
Also, it would be awesome to have leveling trees for Scion. If not progressive trees, at least some notes on order of priorities :)

Appreciate all your hard work!

I might add it later on.

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Is puncture trap still the best single target complement to tornado shot or is frenzy/blast rain a better option

Hard to say, it depends on your playstyle, but I honestly think you'd be best off with frenzy. TS can reach fairly similar levels of single target damage to blastrain, even if it's a bit less comfortable to use. A puncture trap is stil viable, if it suits your playstyle. It was making me cringe at times, but it's undeniably strong.

Also I've updated the videos by the way. About time lol, they were still from the Forsaken Masters expansion.