[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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TheChosenOne_ 님이 작성:

I havent played this build in a while, is the 5ex enough to do all content except end game bosses is gonna take a while and 25 ex for cluster version to do all content comfortable true even with the nerfs a while back? I'm almost at the end of acts and I hope to have fun with this build again

It depends on what you mean with "all content". And also where are you playing now. League prices are higher now then in the beginning, but still not as high as in Standard. You may just try to check prices for things that are discussed in last pages and see if you do want to go that way ( in terms of investments).

Regards,
Karl

Looks like the cluster pob is from 3.16. Just update it to 3.17 and follow that right? I notice with other builds it changes some passives or some passives go missing after updating old version of pob to 3.17. The large cluster jewel in that cluster jewel version pob shows only cold to the core and blanketed snow while the jewel in the jewel section shows cold to the core, prismatic heart and widespread destruction. Which is the best two to get in case I cant afford a 3 skill one and what's the best 3 skill large cluster jewel? And for the megalomaniac jewel what if I cant afford or find the jewels with the skills in the pob? just make sure it has at least cold to the core? Looking up megalomaniac jewel with only cold to the core selected is pretty cheap

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TheChosenOne_ 님이 작성:

I havent played this build in a while, is the 5ex enough to do all content except end game bosses is gonna take a while and 25 ex for cluster version to do all content comfortable true even with the nerfs a while back? I'm almost at the end of acts and I hope to have fun with this build again

5ex might be enough to get base gear with lvl20 gems leveled by yourself. But the cluster version is way more expensive than 25ex. Synthesized gear with %int costs a lot, especially the amulet that was half my total gear price. You can still get away with Astramentis though, but the rest (rings, armor, helmet gloves) will be expensive, even if you use Cyclopean Coil as belt.

One good thing though, the base build lets you heist easily and that is very good income to get the money for the rest of the gear.

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Kakabot237 님이 작성:

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TheChosenOne_ 님이 작성:

I havent played this build in a while, is the 5ex enough to do all content except end game bosses is gonna take a while and 25 ex for cluster version to do all content comfortable true even with the nerfs a while back? I'm almost at the end of acts and I hope to have fun with this build again

It depends on what you mean with "all content". And also where are you playing now. League prices are higher now then in the beginning, but still not as high as in Standard. You may just try to check prices for things that are discussed in last pages and see if you do want to go that way ( in terms of investments).

Regards,
Karl

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Sylaron 님이 작성:

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TheChosenOne_ 님이 작성:

I havent played this build in a while, is the 5ex enough to do all content except end game bosses is gonna take a while and 25 ex for cluster version to do all content comfortable true even with the nerfs a while back? I'm almost at the end of acts and I hope to have fun with this build again

5ex might be enough to get base gear with lvl20 gems leveled by yourself. But the cluster version is way more expensive than 25ex. Synthesized gear with %int costs a lot, especially the amulet that was half my total gear price. You can still get away with Astramentis though, but the rest (rings, armor, helmet gloves) will be expensive, even if you use Cyclopean Coil as belt.

One good thing though, the base build lets you heist easily and that is very good income to get the money for the rest of the gear.

Thanks guys. Can you answer my other questions in my other post?

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TheChosenOne_ 님이 작성:

Looks like the cluster pob is from 3.16. Just update it to 3.17 and follow that right? I notice with other builds it changes some passives or some passives go missing after updating old version of pob to 3.17. The large cluster jewel in that cluster jewel version pob shows only cold to the core and blanketed snow while the jewel in the jewel section shows cold to the core, prismatic heart and widespread destruction. Which is the best two to get in case I cant afford a 3 skill one and what's the best 3 skill large cluster jewel? And for the megalomaniac jewel what if I cant afford or find the jewels with the skills in the pob? just make sure it has at least cold to the core? Looking up megalomaniac jewel with only cold to the core selected is pretty cheap

[quote="TheChosenOne_" realm="pc"]Looks like the cluster pob is from 3.16. Just update it to 3.17 and follow that right? I notice with other builds it changes some passives or some passives go missing after updating old version of pob to 3.17. The large cluster jewel in that cluster jewel version pob shows only cold to the core and blanketed snow while the jewel in the jewel section shows cold to the core, prismatic heart and widespread destruction. Which is the best two to get in case I cant afford a 3 skill one and what's the best 3 skill large cluster jewel? And for the megalomaniac jewel what if I cant afford or find the jewels with the skills in the pob? just make sure it has at least cold to the core? Looking up megalomaniac jewel with only cold to the core selected is pretty cheap[/quote][/quote]

This is now my finished build at lvl 99 and having great fun with it

15,537 ES

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Eag1e 님이 작성:

[quote="TheChosenOne_" realm="pc"]Looks like the cluster pob is from 3.16. Just update it to 3.17 and follow that right? I notice with other builds it changes some passives or some passives go missing after updating old version of pob to 3.17. The large cluster jewel in that cluster jewel version pob shows only cold to the core and blanketed snow while the jewel in the jewel section shows cold to the core, prismatic heart and widespread destruction. Which is the best two to get in case I cant afford a 3 skill one and what's the best 3 skill large cluster jewel? And for the megalomaniac jewel what if I cant afford or find the jewels with the skills in the pob? just make sure it has at least cold to the core? Looking up megalomaniac jewel with only cold to the core selected is pretty cheap

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This is now my finished build at lvl 99 and having great fun with it

15,537 ES

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goddamn it would probably take me 3 leagues to afford all that stuff

If I have two large cluster jewels with blanketed snow and cold to the core, 2 split personalities and 2 megalomaniacs with only cold to the core (to make them affordable) that should be way better than classic/no cluster version of the build?

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goddamn it would probably take me 3 leagues to afford all that stuff

Ah, now this is where forward planning comes in.

Most the stuff i brough, i got at start of league cheap, as in VERY cheap. Then, i farmed currency as best i could, and after that, i did alot of crafting myself. Some i sold to make currency so i could afford more crafting etc.

This is why, i try to choose a build at start, then make it as best i can.

But one big piece of advice, buy the base item of what you need, then build on it. Works out so much cheaper

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TheChosenOne_ 님이 작성:

If I have two large cluster jewels with blanketed snow and cold to the core, 2 split personalities and 2 megalomaniacs with only cold to the core (to make them affordable) that should be way better than classic/no cluster version of the build?

yes, by a lot!

I just made that transition a couple of days ago, still the same gear (which is very crappy btw). MUCH more damage and surviveablity with the cluster version

you can get away with the "cheap" version on a lot of things.

like: a regular sulfur flask is also pretty good, dont need the unique
the brut force gems also come with 1% elemental penetration which ironically is cheaper then just the 1%cold pen
the %int on rings can also be corrupted (synth is better because you can still alter/quali it) but with a couple of cheap base rings you can try vaaling for the %int implicit (but you might want to skip on catalyst in those for now, just a cheap base)
watchers eye: mana to es is very expensive, you can get away with another mod for the mean time
craft the rares either with essence or fossil (or dont! i still need to buy a lot of those myself :P)

Hi, i followed the non-cluster one. I have the same dps as the non-cluster pob but unfortunately i cant fully clear t16 alch and go maps while holding down cyclone. I need to stop 1-2 second to clear some mobs and that just bums me out. How can i upgrade this? I only have 5ex left

https://pobb.in/A1jjYhSzfYa-