[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

It does, and you won't have a tabula, 4-links, or +1 wands avaliable either :).

Frost Bomb is still a decent skill to start with, in act 2 you can swap to a fire-build - arma brand, flame wall and holy flame totems for damage, as they are all duration based so you can layer them over each other. That's what I usually do when leaguestarting WI.

Though the first levels are pain leaguestarting. Scion has terrible early passives avaliable. Once you have a 4 socket WI, everything's smooth sailing though, just gotta suffer through the first 3 acts :D

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EF_Balduin 님이 작성:

It does, and you won't have a tabula, 4-links, or +1 wands avaliable either :).

Correct.

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EF_Balduin 님이 작성:

Frost Bomb is still a decent skill to start with, in act 2 you can swap to a fire-build - arma brand, flame wall and holy flame totems for damage, as they are all duration based so you can layer them over each other. That's what I usually do when leaguestarting WI.

That doesn't make sense. Armageddon Brand is a level 28 gem which you get in act 3.

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EF_Balduin 님이 작성:

Though the first levels are pain leaguestarting. Scion has terrible early passives avaliable. Once you have a 4 socket WI, everything's smooth sailing though, just gotta suffer through the first 3 acts :D

Understood. I league-started a necro and a toxic rain in the previous leagues, and I was shocked at how much faster I was levelling up. So I really wanted to do my best to optimize my start for the next league.

I guess I just have to manually experiment using Path of Building until I find some subset of spell gems that works the best.

oddly enough before giving this build a true go, i league started as the exanguinate scion by tsunamikun on these forums. I had a lot of fun playing it but i just couldn't achieve enough damage for high red tier maps or end game bosses but i had enough currency to respec and get some basic gear which im still using the rings and gloves :(. Im not skilled enough to figure out how to craft gloves and there simply isn't int/es/res options on console so im just spite and woe slamming hoping to get lucky lol.

I like this build a lot and may do something similar again next league because exsanguinate was a blast to play through the acts and early mapping especially once you get chain.

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Graiaule 님이 작성:

I guess I just have to manually experiment using Path of Building until I find some subset of spell gems that works the best.

Leveling speed, at least on those who speed to maps (in my experience), is more dependant of movespeed than damage. Kill enough stuff to keep your level to not fall behind area level and just run to next level.

So I tried Uber elder and maven for the first time with this build using self casting and lost unfortunately. I’m not sure I can handle those without the maneuverability of cyclone but at the same time I feel I don’t really do enough damage with the cyclone boss staff for the big bosses. I have 7.2k es and around 2.1k int I feel like as far as those two I should have enough dps. Now granted this was my first time ever with maven and the last time I did Uber elder was 3.9 so I may just be to rusty on the mechanic portion lol.

Lol Sentinel....battle pet ? xD

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Cjin 님이 작성:

Leveling speed, at least on those who speed to maps (in my experience), is more dependant of movespeed than damage. Kill enough stuff to keep your level to not fall behind area level and just run to next level.

If I "kill enough stuff" faster, I level faster, right? 8-)

Maybe I should pump up Frost Bomb as much as possible, and just drop that behind me as I run through packs.

Messing with PoB shows

(frost bomb, freezing pulse) > arcane surge > added lightning > conc eff > elem focus (in order of priority, highest to lower)

Elem overload 40% more damage so take this early, as well as Ash, Frost, and Storm.

+1 to cold of course on your wands

was the highest damage combo I was able to come up with. Take firestorm level 28 and replace freezing pulse.

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Basically I get to 39, and then mess with gearing a bit so as to get (nearly) all of the map-level gems purchased and installed so everything levels up nicely. That usually takes me about an hour of game time, desperately selling stuff for alchs, and then buying cheap 1-2 alch items, or rarely, spending 4 alch for a 1c item.

That's a bit of a road bump, and then everything settles down until I hit maps and/or switch to CI (requiring a new set of traded gear.)

Still takes me ~15 play hours to hit maps. I suppose I just can't scan the vendors fast enough...

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Graiaule 님이 작성:

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If I "kill enough stuff" faster, I level faster, right? 8-)

There is penalty to xp gain if difference between your character level and area level is too high. Both ways, if your level is too high or too low. For example to T16 maps you are getting 100% xp if your level is 71-85. At lvl90 you are getting like 57% of full xp, lvl 95 12.5% and lvl 99 4.2%. That is why the few last levels take so long to get. Flat xp needed doesn't get that much higher, you just get lot less xp/kill.

The level range you get full xp from kills is I think clvl ± (3 + clvl/16). So if you overlevel, that happens easily if you kill most stuff every area, you start getting less xp/kill. Also stuff on higher areas give more basexp/kill.

I would say its best to have your level to be area level±2. If your lvl is getting higher, just run past everything, if its getting lower kill few more packs.

In the end, killing pack one sec faster is smaller increasement to leveling speed than being able to run 10% faster.

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Cjin 님이 작성:

In the end, killing pack one sec faster is smaller increase to leveling speed than being able to run 10% faster.

Yeah, you just pinpointed the thing to do. Start as a witch (which you need to do anyway) but also do the quest to get the Quicksilver flask. Then craft a movement speed boot (or upgrade a 10% one you buy to 15% at level 12.)

Wow the self-cast setup is poggers,

Wave 30 Kosis just disappears


Level 96, 3010int



Crafted everything myself :)