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Deadandlivin 님이 작성:

I did 50 of them yesterday.
x3 Crimson, x3 Amber, x3 Violet
Chisel, rare and corrupted with x4 Sac frags for every map.

Think I averaged 0.6 ex profit per map I did. Got 7 Tainted Oils which were close to 2 ex each. Pretty chill too. You set up towers the first 2-3 minutes. Then you just afk. 3 Pure ex drops, 5 Golden Oils, an Abandoned Wealth card drop et.c. Got over 400 stacked decks amongst other crap.

Ok. I used to run them with 70 quant or so + oils, so maybe will increase it a bit at the start of the next league.
P.S. 7 Tainted Oils look like some kind of extreme luck. I've heard people did a few hundred maps, seeing 1 or 2 of these dropped.

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Its_OP 님이 작성:

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Deadandlivin 님이 작성:

It depends on how efficient you are at farming.
If you're farming pretty fast doing content like Simulcrums or Blight Ravaged maps(Super profitable) you'll be racking up money fast and I try to mirror the BiS helm. It's super expensive though and might be out of reach for many of you.

More realistically though, in your case I would at 3 primary major upgrades:
1. Awakened Multistrike
2. Assassin's Mark Ring
3. New Boots. You should look into getting Fugitive Boots with Chaos Res, Spell Supression, High life. You want to Aisling Slam 30% movement speed with Chill immunity and craft Freeze immunity on them aswell.
This opens you up to change Pantheon.

If you've maybe missed it, you want to use 1 Carnage, 1 Host Chieftain and 2 Crabs for your spectres. This gives you permanent 3 Charges on all minions, skeletons included which is massive.

How on Earth did you manage to make huge profits from Blight-Ravaged maps ? I used to farm them at the start of the league when they were 15-17c each and lvl86 bases were worth something. I barely broke even and these were so boring, that I had to take a break from the league for a week. I can't imagine they can bring you huge money, unless you use a bot to farm them.

I did 50 of them yesterday.
x3 Crimson, x3 Amber, x3 Violet
Chisel, rare and corrupted with x4 Sac frags for every map.

Think I averaged 0.6 ex profit. Got 7 Tainted Oils which were close to 2 ex each.

They never drop from normal blighted maps. Think I averaged 1 Tainted per x100 normal blights. But they do drop alot from Blight Ravaged if you run them properly I think. Saw Fyregrass make a video on it too, he said it was 1 tainted every 10 maps he did.

Hi @Deadandlivin

Tried to check all the new upgrades you introduced lately (spent like 15 ex on divergent melee splashes xd), but got several issues

1. The gameplay with hydrosphere feels awful, most of the bosses just ran away and that's it
2. I fell I dps decrease after introducing the changes (don't know how to properly compare in pob, my shows some ridiculous values like 35k per golem
3. In general I have troubles with pressing to many buttons. Is NumLock trick the savior or I should just get used to it?
4. Didn't find a 4r-2b chest for golems, so I use 3r-3b and can't fit either empower or mulistrike (can't do like you and fit awakened melee phys on specters and zombies, cause I need to run them in the helm. Or maybe I should just change it?).
5. In general - I still can't do simulacrums, just die a little bit later, like wave 25, the rest I tried is easy.

Can you give me some advice and maybe find other errors in my build?

Anyone playing this game on Standard, using 3.15ish gear?

Hi ,

I am new to building minions.
I am trying to make it work, but I am confused.
In Scourge in the part "scourge" 1º builds with determination and after the determination goes out?
In 6 link we have 7 geems 1 disabled ... why ??
And most importantly for the change from low to medium, I need a ring with curse, weapon and ... Or do I just buy 1 item and then another?
Can I follow the equipment instructions in the general guide?

P.D.: Sorry for my english ^^.

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meip 님이 작성:

Hi ,

I am new to building minions.
I am trying to make it work, but I am confused.
In Scourge in the part "scourge" 1º builds with determination and after the determination goes out?
In 6 link we have 7 geems 1 disabled ... why ??
And most importantly for the change from low to medium, I need a ring with curse, weapon and ... Or do I just buy 1 item and then another?
Can I follow the equipment instructions in the general guide?

P.D.: Sorry for my english ^^.

First and most important, don't follow the guide apart from the "Scourge" section, it's outdated for now.

Determination is important, and you must have it. The gem might be missing if an item is providing the skill, such as shields or amulets.

Disabled skills in a combination just mean that it is one extra option that you can use, but might not be the best one. Stick with the six linked gems if possible.

Changing from low to medium and intermediate build means you have to spend currency on new and more expansive itens. It's hard to say exacly what you should buy next, depends on your gear, your budget, etc. For me, I prefer to look into de intermediate/final build and aim those itens. Keep the POB of your character up-to-date and try to analyze the changes from each and every item you still miss or need to improve, it should tell you where to go next.

I think next upgrade for me would be +6 helmet now coz am a bit slow with bosses.
Wand, ring and boots r sh1t but that can wait and i cant get dps on these :>

Any tips on that? Got like 5-6ex now :>



Thanx

OUhhh shitt.
Well first ty!

And then that pob follow ?? the normal gear guide? >_<

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imilenin 님이 작성:

Hi @Deadandlivin

Tried to check all the new upgrades you introduced lately (spent like 15 ex on divergent melee splashes xd), but got several issues

1. The gameplay with hydrosphere feels awful, most of the bosses just ran away and that's it
2. I fell I dps decrease after introducing the changes (don't know how to properly compare in pob, my shows some ridiculous values like 35k per golem
3. In general I have troubles with pressing to many buttons. Is NumLock trick the savior or I should just get used to it?
4. Didn't find a 4r-2b chest for golems, so I use 3r-3b and can't fit either empower or mulistrike (can't do like you and fit awakened melee phys on specters and zombies, cause I need to run them in the helm. Or maybe I should just change it?).
5. In general - I still can't do simulacrums, just die a little bit later, like wave 25, the rest I tried is easy.

Can you give me some advice and maybe find other errors in my build?

Yeah, hydrosphere feels pretty bad. You only want to use it when you really need it. The cast is pretty slow too.
You should get Anomalous which gives it more cast speed. You can def feel the difference. Hydrosphere only really feels good when you have Flesh Offering active with increased cast speed.

If you don't have a Taunt Jewel in your belt yet, you should get one. It will help keeping bosses in place so you don't have to recast it 24/7.

The additional buttons can be troublesome.
In general what you look to do against bosses is:
1. Press Skeletons 3 times ontop of boss or before a boss spawns
2. Press Hydrosphere ontop of boss or where boss will spawn
3. Apply EE and Curses with your BV.

Only cast Hydrosphere if a boss is standing still and being controlled by your minions. Don't bother with it if the boss is running around and kiting you et.c.

Run skeletons and Golems in chest. Use Awk Minion dmg, Splash, Multistrike and Awk Melee phys (Skip empower). If your golems are squishy, replace multistrike with empower.

Zombies and Spectres in helm supported by FF and Splash.

Do you have all defenses for Sims? Like 72% spell block, 38k armour and 19k evasion et.c.? Also, are you ignite immune and freeze immune? It's very important.

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konop88 님이 작성:

I think next upgrade for me would be +6 helmet now coz am a bit slow with bosses.
Wand, ring and boots r sh1t but that can wait and i cant get dps on these :>

Any tips on that? Got like 5-6ex now :>

Thanx

You need to get +2 wand asap. If you can, with Hatred effect and minion damage.
The wand will buff all minions. Helm only affect half of them.