[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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_Saranghaeyo_ 님이 작성:

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NeverSink 님이 작성:

Hey,

I'd just like to tell (announce?) 2 things:

1) I've recently started rewriting the guide from the ground up. It's been way too long, since this guide has received a real update and it's about time. It'll take a few weeks (or maybe more), but I have some big plans :).

2) I'd like to thank everyone who keeps answering the questions and keeping up a good discussion. You're doing the community a great service.

Will be interesting. No offense but not really a fan of you joking on Reddit "maybe I'll finally update the guide this time lolz" when for the longest time you've left out the most crucial interactions for this kind of build through a lot of the most recent patches.

Admittedly a smaller sample but from those that have whispered me in-game for help they are always surprised to see I'm a Pathfinder because in this thread Deadeye is higher on the list, so it "must be the best." It's also super misleading to have 6 Ascendancy Trees from Patch 2.2 when most classes have been updated or adjusted.

I've always said that I appreciate your work on the Filter and other content, but honestly from my standpoint for this thread you've left a lot of newer players to hang out and dry. Thank you though for at least trying to update.

You're absolutely right. Joking about it was pretty low.

This is pretty much the same primary motivation for me. I'm receiving multiple help requests daily, with questions that could've been prevented by providing up-to-date information in the first place. The fact that other good guides exist (king of the forest etc) does not excuse, the lack of attention to updates on my side.

Updating the guide was always on my list, but I've dug myself a grand hole, consisting out of non-templated assets and length capped posts. Every time I've started editing it, it deleted most of the item references. It also required a lot of time, something (already very limited by a full-time job) that I currently have to distribute, between several projects. So, after seeing those annoyances, I decided "screw this, I'll go do that Python project instead".

I've come to the conclusion, that I just have to rewrite everything. It'll be faster and much more clean..

( Also, I've wanted to rework the TS-Calculator, but I can't get a certain feature to work, so I'll leave this it out for now. )

EDIT: Your edit is too late, that being said you were right. I messed up, didn't have to edit it :P

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NeverSink 님이 작성:

Hey,

I'd just like to tell (announce?) 2 things:

1) I've recently started rewriting the guide from the ground up. It's been way too long, since this guide has received a real update and it's about time. It'll take a few weeks (or maybe more), but I have some big plans :).

2) I'd like to thank everyone who keeps answering the questions and keeping up a good discussion. You're doing the community a great service.

Great news. I'm already looking forward to it.

Been struggling to describe my problem but have it in a nutshell now.

On this forum NeverSink has a really good and helpful thread. He states how good Tornado Shot is and the amazing damage and shows this image:



whereas mine is



There's a huge difference and yet my skill tree is only marginally different and my bow is 350 DPS. How is this so different? Is it the difference between DeadEye and PathFinder as some are suggesting?

My Tornado Shot damage was including using two flasks (Atziri's Promise and Overflowing Challice) -- see earlier post

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Davidjb 님이 작성:

Been struggling to describe my problem but have it in a nutshell now.

Different support gems/old patch images/different attack speed/different jewels/different gear
Maybe he posted it under all buffs.
Here is mine.Almost all buffs.

Wow, amazing. 140,000 damage per second. I am about 12,000 DPS on the same screen. That's a factor of 1000% difference. My skill tree (apart from DeadEye) is v similar to that posted on this thread. I am using similar (if not identical jewels) all at Max 20. My bow is 350 DPS. Where does the factor 1000% come in? I am doing something seriously wrong

Yeah, it's mostly legacy reach and it's totally elemental damage multiplied by Signal fire,PtL,hatred,HoA, Wed,elemental damage rolls,vaal haste, two flasks and other minor boosts.
Unbuffed it's 52k.
Mostly i overdamage bosses resistances.

Hi all.Guys give me pls Passive Tree for Windripper Tornado build.Skills on the site has an older version,i can not open it.Sorry for my language.Ty.
P.S. im use Drillneck.

It looks like all the "tweaks" are minor. At base level your DPS is still 5 times mine and that must help significantly. I am not killing quickly enough and then get hit, whereas a higher DPS stops that in its tracks. As you say it's likely to be your bow at 450 DPS but they are rare and about 40 Exe.

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_Saranghaeyo_ 님이 작성:

Around what tier are you able to consistently farm with that, Zero?

I also think for some players we should be setting the correct expectations with appropriate gear levels.

Like I'm confident with my setup I've never run into trouble with anything including Guardians/Shaper/Uber/ULab, but for beginning players just hitting Reds and Normal Atziri could be the goal.

With my current equip t15 isn't a problem, but since i am too lazy, i only killed Hydra half a dozen of times,mostly deathless.
Glare with close-to-perfect rolls can deal with t15 as well and that's around 350 dps bow. It's much cheaper expecially if one can link it together