[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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_Saranghaeyo_ 님이 작성:

NS doesn't even respond to this thread anymore, except for a couple of times and certainly not to questions asked by people here.

Also I gain nothing by doing work "for him," so why would I do that to begin with. I'm not going to hand him over my testing trees, my Path of Building files, or my footage I've recorded. That makes zero sense even for him to just take that from me and use it as his own. I'm not sure what kind of fucked up view of the world you have where you think that is okay.

And the only time I brought up my guide was a comparison of trees. You're making that a much bigger issue here. People come here expecting to play Crit Bow. If you follow through with that on the CI pathing you'll be lucky to get to decent Crit numbers even with a Diamond Flask active. So I'll say it again, if you use the CI tree in this guide, prepare to be disappointed.

It's way more amusing that you have no Rangers past the 70's, especially none that are in endgame, and this must be the best thing since sliced bread for you then. That's adorable.

So stop insulting my content and open your tiny little eyes. Use NS's guide to your hearts content, but attack my content, which has shown that in its current state is updated and tuned to Patch 2.6 levels, something this one hasn't done, and I have a problem with you.

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_Saranghaeyo_ 님이 작성:

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livewirejsp 님이 작성:

_Saranghaeyo_, you said...

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For starters I mentioned already so I'll say it again, that tree is flat out awful and for myself who I consider to be somewhat of a bow veteran, just analyzing the tree is painful as you literally skip out on just about everything that a competing build such as SignalShot has to offer. The pathing makes zero sense and just looks like it was a last minute clobber-together.

That said you should not be going CI as a starter, especially not SSF because of gear availability. Life based always the best if low on resources although the I have doubts about the life tree too.

Do you have an example of a good tree that you're using? Because I've used this tree, but if there are better alternatives, I'd take a gander, and see what I can change to improve my end game. I'm still doing quite fine with where I am at, but I know once the tier 10 maps hit, i'll have some issues.

If you want to go CI Pathfinder you should be looking at SignalShot. I'm not saying you need that gear level, I farmed on a budget a lot this league with dogshit gear and it wasn't an issue. Just pay attention to the tree concepts.

The issue with this tree is that you are, as the audience, told to take Pathfinder to play this tree but the tree itself has zero flask Nodes outside of Witch flask Nodes. You are told to take Master fucking Herbalist when the "default" gem links in this guide are all PTL-WED. You aren't using Barrage, most powerful single target skill, which ironically works with said poison or Elemental damage.

You skip powerful nodes like King of the Hill in your Crit based bow build. Oh, and Crit chance at an all-time pitiful low. 200% with the Lioneye Fall conversion. Where most trees, say mine have ∼+350% and SignalShot tree has, iirc ∼+400% or more. So even with a 9.4 Crit bow base you literally cannot cap Crit with realistic ES gear. You only really get 2× Diamond Ring and Crit on Amulet. No Rats Nest or Maligaro etc for ES based builds. Starting to see the issue?

I like the hipsterness of the tree. It's something I would never do, because it's honestly just a bad tree, but it looks cool?

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Aziello 님이 작성:

You want my help, mate? Reroll to diffrent build.

Im at 77 lvl, raider, and im still getting my ass kicked by t3 map bosses. This build is just bad, lets face it. I made terrible decision by picking it as starter, im rolling to EQ warchief or some cheap as hell caster build.

Ive got 3k+ hp, 8k eva, 3,2% ll from all attacks, 340 dps bow (low on crit, but hey, with cheap items im still getting that 27 cc), cap res and im dying like shit to everything, even with vaal pact. Thats just boring already.

This shows me tho that people who are talking that melee is dead in poe knows nothing.

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Aziello 님이 작성:

You want my help, mate? Reroll to diffrent build.

Im at 77 lvl, raider, and im still getting my ass kicked by t3 map bosses. This build is just bad, lets face it. I made terrible decision by picking it as starter, im rolling to EQ warchief or some cheap as hell caster build.

Ive got 3k+ hp, 8k eva, 3,2% ll from all attacks, 340 dps bow (low on crit, but hey, with cheap items im still getting that 27 cc), cap res and im dying like shit to everything, even with vaal pact. Thats just boring already.

This shows me tho that people who are talking that melee is dead in poe knows nothing.

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Aziello 님이 작성:

Ok, now my profile is public, so you can check it out.

I would like to say, that it's not like "i cant do t3". I can do maps up to unid t6 (never get anything higher)- I just feel terribly squishy and glassy.

Changeing 340 dps bow for Lioneyes Glare isnt best advice, dude ;D Ive got 90% acc, so its no problem. Like I said - dmg isnt problem, survi is. Also, atm i cannot switch to Rats Nest or anything else that will make me more glass cannon (i switchet belt for meginords and gloves for maligaros). Im also using drillneck, which may not be best idea, but its decent even with 5l and since that moment i had terrible luck with quivers.

I never played bow build (since my first terrible attempt at this kind of gameplay 3 years ago), so idk, maybe im just retarded.